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door panel attachment

Is everyone still using auveco clips to attach door panels to the door? I,ve been using the #808's so i dont have to worry about the offset of the #10780.

Just wondering if there were any new methods.
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I made some light weight panels for my 34 and I am using industrial grade 2" wide self adhesive Velcro, it works perfectly. I tried some Auveeco clips on some earlier panels and they were too thick and interfered with door closing.

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Velcro sounds like a great solution until you find out that the regular self adhesive Velcro will fail in high heat conditions, especially when it is used vertically and there is a load on it like the weight of a door panel. You need a perfectly clean surface for it to stick correctly, and that isn't how most older car doors are. They do make a super adhesive Velcro which is what I think Vince is talking about, but it is $3.00 a foot for each side, hook and loop. That's about $60.00 a door panel, instead of about $3.00 of clips. That's why the manufacturers don't use it.

I like the 10780 offset clips because the clip is attached 5/8" farther into the center of the door panel which I think is stronger, and I don't have to deal with the clips being in the panel when I'm working on it. I hate those plastic Christmas tree fasteners.
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Dan I did use the super hold Velcro, I bought a 20' roll of the 2" wide stuff for $26. I also applied clear polyurethane to the backside of the 1/8" veneer panels to provide a moisture barrier and for the Velcro to grip to. I agree the Velcro will not work long term for normal to heavy door panels, but the panels I made are super light weight. I went all the way around the backside of the panels with Velcro. When I try and remove the Velcro it pulls wood from the 1/8" veneer.

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Vince: I'm familiar with the super adhesive Velcro, I have a roll of it, and it was very expensive.
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On the Gibbon body 34 which mine is the clearance between the bottom of the door and the where the floor pan rolls down is so close that if you have a thick door panel the door will not close all the way. I initially had some extruded aluminum sill plates installed but had to do away with those because they were eliminating any clerance I had.

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I really don't understand how the Velcro helped that problem. In my mind I would think that the 1/4" the Velcro added would have made things worse. ??
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I really don't understand how the Velcro helped that problem. In my mind I would think that the 1/4" the Velcro added would have made things worse. ??
The very bottom of the panel does not have any foam glued to it, just upholstery material. Also there is no Velcro at the very bottom back side of the panel. the Velcro was added to the back right above the section that meets the floor so the only thing between the floor sides and the door is a 1/8" piece of veneer and the upholstery material.

Know anyone who needs some extruded aluminum door sill plates for a 34 3 window coupe?

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O.K. Now it makes sense to me.
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I have a question about these clips you guys use. In my thread here How to cover these door pods? what i did was use t-nut's on the 1/4" board and screwed into them from the door panel side.

Now that I have it all installed o on the door, the force of the door closing is forcing all the t-nut's out.

I need a way to be able to secure this panel so it won't come off. Would prefer if I didn't have to take the door panel back off, but if I don't want any type of fastener to show, I assume I would have to.

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The Au-Ve-Co clips in this thread have to be pre-planned ahead of time with holes in the door panel that mate with the clip.

You're talking about attaching the pod to the existing door panel, right? Can you take a picture of the back of the pod? What is the pod made of, and where are the t-nuts attached to the pod? That was a good way to attach the pod, but they should have been on the outside of the pod with the teeth pointing back at the door panel. If you have the t-nuts attached wrong, with the teeth pointing at the front of the pod, you can drill holes in the flange of the t-nuts and screw or pop rivet the t-nuts to the pod.
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You're talking about attaching the pod to the existing door panel, right? Can you take a picture of the back of the pod? What is the pod made of, and where are the t-nuts attached to the pod? They should have been on the outside of the pod with the teeth pointing back at the door panel. If you have the t-nuts attached wrong, with the teeth pointing at the front of the pod, you can drill holes in the flange of the t-nuts and screw or pop rivet the t-nuts to the pod.
Yes, existing plastic door panel.
Can't get a pic right now, but can when I get home.
The pod is that brown hard board, don't recall the name, and the actual pod is attached to that with fiberglass.
Yes, the t-nut's, if I took the tweed off, you would see the flange so the teeth are pointing towards the door panel.

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Is the pod made of 1/4" Masonite? Are the t-nuts pulling through the Masonite?
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I think they are installed wrong. They are installed from the back of the masonite. so the teeth are facing away from the door. I had never used them before and was going off another DIY I had seen. That explains a lot and I should have caught that.

Only problem I see with that is then the flange would show through the tweed then since they are not totally flush. Well lesson learned on that one. What can I do to remedy this w/o ripping the tweed off?

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:Only problem I see with that is then the flange would show through the tweed then since they are not totally flush. Well lesson learned on that one. What can I do to remedy this w/o ripping the tweed off?

Derek
Sorry, nothing. That is why the use of a sandwiched panel is desirable. The first panel holds the clips and the second panel laminated on top of the first hides the clips. Another method of attaching lightweight door panels that works real well is to use butyl rubber windshield sealer. Once it makes contact it holds tenaciously.

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