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Old 07-28-2014, 11:52 AM
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It seems to me the new weather stripping is causing the door to move
when shut.Causing it to move up/down or towards the latch causing the hangup.
It will more than likely solve itself as the weather stripping crushes into shape as the door is opened and closed.

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The weather strip is putting pressure on the door and latch. You need stronger solenoids or possibly an adjustment. The deeper the solenoid plunger is at rest, the better pull it will have but you loose some travel. If they cant be adjusted, get stronger ones. I bet if you push the door in a little you will hear the latch activate. Popper will most likely make the issue worse as it will put even more pressure on the door.
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Okay, here are some interior door shots showing the solenoid and the piano wire connecting the latch. Hard to get a camera inside, but luckily I have an opening in the middle of the door. As I mentioned before, the mechanism works well up until the weather stripping was added. However, with that in mind, the doors have been closed almost a week and when opening them I noticed that the "D" was taking a new shape (adjusting for the door profile). The doors are easier to close without much of a slam and the opening of them (with the key fob) is intermittent, but getting more frequent?
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Thanks for the pics. It's hard to verify for sure, but there appears to be some excess slack in the piano wire. I'd suggest tightening that up. It might involve re-crimping, but those clamps should be available in most hardware stores.

Another alternative would be to replace the piano wire with 1/8" rod, cut & bent to the appropriate required length. This would more closely replicate factory door lock connecting links, guaranteeing no excess slack in the solenoid operation. I'd approach this is as doing it once, & doing it to last; especially before you do your upholstery. You'll never have a better time to make the needed correction.
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I have my solenoids on an aluminum plate which is riveted to the inside door panel.



And this is how it connects at the latch.
Using the bicycle brake cable like this gets rid of slack, the solenoid acts on the latch immediately.



The front solenoid is a 15lber, behind the 45.




It's easy to overwork a 15lber.

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Should there be any slack between the solenoid and latch ?


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The steel rod may be hard to do as the cable loops over a pulley at the top. The only thing I can do is see if the cable can be tightened a little more.
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Understood! The tightening should help. While you're in there, buy, & use, some of this product, (or another like-type brand) on the interior lock(s) moving parts, as well as the pulley wheel shaft, (both doors):

3-IN-ONE Dry to Touch Dry Lube (also available in a spray-can....)

From your pics, the parts look dry; eliminating friction will make your solenoid's job easier to function. NOTE: Some folks use lithium grease, but I've found that it attracts more grit over time........
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I did mine in a very similar way, but I left extra room between the solenoid and the housing end stop. I installed the smallest turnbuckle I could find at the hardware store between the solenoid and the housing. Makes it EZ to remove slack.
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Wonder of wonders; the passenger door now pops open 2-3" when the solenoid is energized. Now if only the drivers door would follow suit. I like the turnbuckle idea and I like the stuff to reduce friction. Always nice to pick someone else's brain. Now to combine both ideas.
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thanks for the info
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Update! As to the drivers door not opening like the passenger door, I decided to take the pin latch off the door post. Then the door was closed slowly until I felt a resistance at the truly closed position. When I took my hand off the door stayed closed. Has to be an interference somewhere! With the door closed I ran a piece of cereal box cardboard all around the inner edge of the door frame. It was at the top, about 4" in length that the cardboard would not slide. Opened the door and saw some scuffing of the paint, but not enough to really see it unless you were looking for it. Since the truck was already painted I placed a 2x4 against the offending upper door jamb and gave it a few whacks with a sledge. This gave me the needed clearance which relieved the interference. The amount of the clearance is so miniscule that whacking it some more may damage the paint. Now the door opens to the 2nd latch, but it does it better than before. What I can't figure out is why didn't the interference show itself before? And then it hit me....several layers of paint filled the gap and made the problem.
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