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Old 11-17-2009, 01:00 PM
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Drop axle or IFS?

I'm looking for ideas on front suspension for my 27' Model-t-crew I'm building.

I know there is lots of kits out there but I like reusing factory parts instead of using shiny new ones that cost lots.

Is there any car or truck that I could get a drop axle from that would be fairly cheap to convert to disk brakes? I have 5x4.5" bolt pattern rims I want to use.

Also, is there any good ifs suspensions out there that are good bang for the buck? And, is a pinto or Mustang II factory suspension even worth dragging home?

Thanks, Jim
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front axle......

Hi,FORGET the pinto or mustang i/s,they will look like crapola on an open car (no fenders) if using fenders,they MAY look OK.
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If you are fortunate to have some of the parts laying about then it can be fairly inexpensive..If not then I would go to someone like Speedway motors and get the pieces that you need for the front end..IFS on a early Ford just does not look good and a wrecking yard IFS is bulky and looks ugly under one of those cars though we do get away with that on some of the later full fendered cars..The 5x4.5 bolt pattern is not an issue as there are rotors drilled for that bolt pattern available for early Ford spindles..Cost wise I have fought the battle and found for that it is cost effective to just bite it and get a proper axle, spindles and rotors in the first instance..You can save considerable by going to paint and powder coat on the front end components and wind up with some handsome detail..Personally I find life gets a lot easier if one uses the stock drop axle and relocates the spring perch higher in the chassis to get the finished ride height one wants..This is the Old Skool way of doing it dating from the days when we did not have all the choices we have now and no money either...

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Hi,FORGET the pinto or mustang i/s,they will look like crapola on an open car (no fenders) if using fenders,they MAY look OK.
And they are way too light a duty front end for a T - crew IMHO.
Just find a 40 back Ford front axle setup and adapt it.

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The Mustang front ends don't look right on them,I would go with the drop axle..
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easiest/ cheaper just to get a drop axle front end kit from Speedway. there only $469 for the plain kit.. then you could ither order there spindle and brake kit for another $500 or those parts should be able to be found used.. '49-'54 Chevy spindles or '37-'48 Spindles
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Old Ford axles look good. Old Mopar tube axles (36 ish). Early Ford Econoline. Early Chevy van, early Dodge van. All can be made to look good on a "Bucket" Disc brake kits are available.
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Just find a 40 back Ford front axle setup and adapt it.
I have two model A's (1928 & 1931) at the farm. Is there any five lug (5x4.5) disk brake setup out there for those type of spindles? Or are those axles just to weak and a waste of time to use?
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Perfect and if you have the spindles and wishbones, tie rods and all that even more perfect..Freshen up the kingpins and bushings and split the wishbones and you are on the way..I would need to do some checking to see about the disk brake kit as the ones I see listed are for 37-48 spindles but I am sure that there is a kit for your spindles..Might have to go to Wilwood or total performance for that kit..Of course doing your own kit is doable..Details details you see...

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Speedway has an adaptor to fit the same disc brakes on the model A spindles but I think they take machining
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If you are fortunate to have some of the parts laying about then it can be fairly inexpensive..If not then I would go to someone like Speedway motors and get the pieces that you need for the front end..IFS on a early Ford just does not look good and a wrecking yard IFS is bulky and looks ugly under one of those cars though we do get away with that on some of the later full fendered cars..The 5x4.5 bolt pattern is not an issue as there are rotors drilled for that bolt pattern available for early Ford spindles..Cost wise I have fought the battle and found for that it is cost effective to just bite it and get a proper axle, spindles and rotors in the first instance..You can save considerable by going to paint and powder coat on the front end components and wind up with some handsome detail..Personally I find life gets a lot easier if one uses the stock drop axle and relocates the spring perch higher in the chassis to get the finished ride height one wants..This is the Old Skool way of doing it dating from the days when we did not have all the choices we have now and no money either...

Just my opinion..

Sam

I agree call Speedway and get a quote. It is the easiest, safest and most economical option and it will look good when your done. IFS just doesn't look good and is not worth the hassle. Here are two pics of simular cars one with a drop axle the other with modern IFS. You decide what looks better.

Kurt
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