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fastal_12147 04-12-2013 07:19 PM

Drop spindles?
 
Can some please explain to me what drop spindles are? i'm totally clueless here

MARTINSR 04-12-2013 07:27 PM

Drop spindle have a raised "axle" where the hub mounts. When you raise it, the car is lowered.

Brian

fastal_12147 04-12-2013 07:31 PM

so does it end up looking the same as lowering springs?

MARTINSR 04-12-2013 07:40 PM

I did a quick drawing for you. You can see that the mount for the hub on the spindle on the right is 1 inch higher.Thus the car would be lowered 1 inch. Still maintaining all the proper geometry (within reason) as the stock spindle.

The same goes for a "raised spindle" it goes the other way and raises the car because the wheel is lowered in relation with car.

Brian

edit: LOL, I miss counted, I thought it looked like more than one "inch", it's two. I counted just now on the photo and the right is at 16 not 15. :drunk:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3543f557.jpg

MARTINSR 04-12-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastal_12147 (Post 1665776)
so does it end up looking the same as lowering springs?

No, not at all. Shortened springs would be exactly line filling the engine compartment with bricks, or put a big fat friend on the each fender, that is doing the same thing as shortened springs.

Depending on the car it can play havoc with the suspension geometry. Often causing negative camber where the top of the wheel comes in dramatically, leaning the tire. Sometimes it isn't a real big deal but dropped spindles keep it all correct.

See how in the drawing the control arms going out to the spindle remain horizontal? When you cut the springs that all changes with them going up hill to the spindle.

Brian

fastal_12147 04-12-2013 07:51 PM

ok so drop spindles are better overall for you suspension vs lowered springs?

MARTINSR 04-12-2013 07:54 PM

Yes, the term is "shortened" or "cut" springs. Think about it this way, the dropped spindle is basically exactly as the factory would have done to lower it, all the geometry stays the same that they designed into it, the wheels are simply mounted higher on the spindle but everything stays the same.

Brian

fastal_12147 04-12-2013 07:59 PM

so cutting the springs just like a short cut

John long 04-12-2013 09:11 PM

Look at it this way. When you alter the spring IN ANY WAY to,lower a,car you loose suspension travel,which will cause it to bottom out,giving you a rough ride at best and bending something at worst.

When you use a dropped spindle you raise the axle which lowers the car but you do not change the suspension or the amount of travel. It is by far the best way.

John Long

John long 04-12-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastal_12147 (Post 1665787)
so cutting the springs just like a short cut

Absolutely. It will also make the car ride rough. If the coil spring is made out of a steel "wire" that is 46 inches long and you cut off 10 inches you now have a spring made out of 36 inches of wire so you have obviously less flex in the spring.

John

fastal_12147 04-12-2013 09:18 PM

cool. thanks. i was looking to lower the front end of el camino and this seems like the way to go

John long 04-12-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastal_12147 (Post 1665813)
cool. thanks. i was looking to lower the front end of el camino and this seems like the way to go

Not the cheapest but definitely the best. Good luck. You can pay us back by posting pictures. :D

John

MARTINSR 04-12-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John long (Post 1665811)
Look at it this way. When you alter the spring IN ANY WAY to,lower a,car you loose suspension travel,which will cause it to bottom out,giving you a rough ride at best and bending something at worst.

When you use a dropped spindle you raise the axle which lowers the car but you do not change the suspension or the amount of travel. It is by far the best way.

John Long

Very good point I didn't even think of. :rolleyes:

Brian

John long 04-12-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARTINSR (Post 1665817)
Very good point I didn't even think of. :rolleyes:

Brian

Us old guys didn't have dropped spindles when we were young Huh? We just did what we had to do. :thumbup:

fastal_12147 04-12-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John long (Post 1665820)
Us old guys didn't have dropped spindles when we were young Huh? We just did what we had to do. :thumbup:

if it's as rough as you're saying i don't envy you :D


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