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Old 06-27-2013, 08:52 AM
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Running off both front and back ports is a waste of time and money on extra brake lines... And you end up with the same thing as if you tied into the lines on one side... Both front ports are tied together and also the back... If you lose one side tied into both fronts.. You still lose both fronts..
Unfortunately, you are not grasping the concept of a diagonal split system. No one is talking about a four-port M/C. The way these systems work, one of the two pistons in the M/C supplies fluid to the right front and left rear wheels. The other piston supplies fluid to the other two. The concept is no different that a front/back split and the failure modes work the same - if you have a leak in one circuit, the the other circuit still has pressure. Is it better to have only the fronts (or backs) in a failure situation instead of a diagonal split? I can't answer that. I'll only point out that OEMs have gone this way, and they're the ones who have to worry about a lawsuit if there's an accident. My only point in my responses was to point out that there are no absolutes. A perfectly safe braking system can be built either way. From a practical standpoint, there IS less plumbing for a front/back split, which is why American automakers used it for so long. Whether "cheapest to build" is the same as "best design" is a question I'll leave to others.

You are right, however. It IS funny how some people post here.

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Well I must have read something wrong then..

As far as having A brake failure and having a diagonal split system,, I wouldn't have it that way... Seems like it would be bad on a rainy day to me..
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Well I must have read something wrong then..

As far as having A brake failure and having a diagonal split system,, I wouldn't have it that way... Seems like it would be bad on a rainy day to me..
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Well I must have read something wrong then..

As far as having A brake failure and having a diagonal split system,, I wouldn't have it that way... Seems like it would be bad on a rainy day to me..
Better not drive any car built in the last 20 or so years, then...
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Better not drive any car built in the last 20 or so years, then...
TOTALLY different as the cars for the last 20 years have nanny control.. you know ABS that wont allow different wheel speeds or lock up.

and most likely why those few non abs cars are never EVER sold in the snowbelt
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Better not drive any car built in the last 20 or so years, then...
This forum is about building cars, Not building them like they do today... As far as the newer ones I drive,, I didn't build them,, But if I did it wouldn't have haft the crap they have.
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This forum is about building cars, Not building them like they do today... As far as the newer ones I drive,, I didn't build them,, But if I did it wouldn't have haft the crap they have.
oh, to order a new car with no abs/yawn/traction control/automatic lights/dimmers/timers/ power everything, no air bags, a normal radio without a screen bigger than most walkmen , basic heater controls,
a man pedal. and rwd a/c power d/l and windows that's it.
big brakes, big hp and nice seat
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oh, to order a new car with no abs/yawn/traction control/automatic lights/dimmers/timers/ power everything, no air bags, a normal radio without a screen bigger than most walkmen , basic heater controls,
a man pedal. and rwd a/c power d/l and windows that's it.
big brakes, big hp and nice seat
No just haft the stuff under the hood..
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