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Old 06-25-2005, 03:51 PM
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Duh, what is this steering part?

Hi. Can someone tell me the name of this part? I was pulling out of my driveway yesterday and the front wheels did the "splits".

After taking things apart, it was obvious that the two bolts holding this to the caliper mount had worked their way loose. One bolt was gone and the other was just wobbling around.

This part is ruined 'cause it's been "wallowed" out and the threads are stripped.

I have no idea who made this part and no one here to ask. I think it's a Super Bell suspension system. The rotor casting has a "Minthick" and has "GM72" stamped in it.

Any help about what this is and where I can buy a new one would be really appreciated.

Thanks.

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The part is a steering arm.

I bet you came close to ruining your interior when that "splits" happened! Thank goodness your weren't at speed on some freeway or busy city street!! The Big Guy has plans for you, pal!
Check the condition of all your steering and suspension components asap, you've had the wake-up call!
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Looks like a 37 ford dropped axle...I dunno if Super Bell is still doing those but not to worry www.speedwaymotors is still doing those axles..

The piece is called a tie rod arm and if in fact that is a dropped axles you will need the tie rod arms for dropped axle..as to the rotor..dunno sounds like a GM part and the min thk should have a number associated with it as that is the minimum thickness the rotor can be turned to..At least I think so anyway..

BTW: install the new ones with grade 8 bolts and locktite so this is not happening again..

hopefully more happy rodding days ahead..

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Old 06-25-2005, 07:17 PM
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Thx Pasadena and OMT. I am a lucky guy. This was a wake up call to check things more often. All these front ends parts take a good pounding over the road.

Here are 2 more pics, one from underneath and one from the front. They might help you ID the type or manufacturer of the tie rod arm.

We're looking at a '32 Ford, 5 window...dunno who made the suspension, calipers, or spindles. I guess I'm just looking for a place to start looking.

Thanks for your help!
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Yep, Speedway sells those steering arms.

If you had been wiping down and doing the service that you should on a hot rod , you would have caught that. Shame on you.

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Looks like you might have a shock problem too-
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Old 06-25-2005, 07:33 PM
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It Won't Happen Again

No excuses here. I haven't been paying attention. It won't happen again! Actually, I'm ready to start a re-build on this old ride when I get the bucks together.

Meanwhile, would you say that this is a possible match for what I need?

Tie Rod Arm for Dropped Axle
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when you go to put it all back together make sure you use grade 8 bolts with the loctite like ONE MORE TIME said but also use TOP LOCK nuts so that stuff wont come apart till you take it apart
yea good thing you did the split @ extreamly low speed it would have been a big mess glad you are ok

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Old 06-28-2005, 12:39 PM
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Where to Buy a New One?

I've sent Speedway a pic and they say they don't sell the steering (or tie rod) arm that I need.

Does anyone have any idea of where or what I might try next?

Thanks.
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Flash, that piece looks identical to the pair I bought from Speedway about a year ago, I found them in the "hotrod"section of the speedway catalog, under "flame cut arms" Perhaps you got "serviced" buy a new guy when his "mentor" wasn't lookin'. Usually the tech folks are much more helpful... try 'em again, if it's still a *** answer, PM me , and I'll lookup the part number on the invoice... Paul
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We're looking at a '32 Ford, 5 window...dunno who made the suspension, calipers, or spindles. I guess I'm just looking for a place to start looking.

Thanks for your help!
Look, let's just solve the whole problem, I'll give you FIFTY BUCKS cash for the old heap, and you won't have to worry with it any more. Let me know where to bring the trailer, i'll bring genuine US rectangular greenies. it could be party time tonight for you and the little woman. get back to me on that.
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Try this

Speedway part number 916-32033 that is for the plain tapered lower tie rod arms..from what I see in the pics they should work...what I am seeing is that this is a dropped axle but then they ran the tierod through the center of the radius rods and this car has the traditional drag link steering..

Worst case is to order a set and have to send them back as I see it..they are 50 bucks in my catalog for the set and you will need to change both sides...least I would..

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I forgot to be serious !!

Sorry about that, I was havin so much fun, I forgot you had a real problem. Anyway, just looking at your pictures, it looks like what you need is just some bolt on steering arms. Replace them both, as they are usually sold in sets. Magnum Axle, Pete and Jakes, Super Bell, TCI can all help you to get the correct one’s. but remember, this is a Hot Rod, be ready to do a little “tweeking”, if needed. Ditto on the Loctite and Nylock nuts. also grade 8 hardware; yada, yada, yada.
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Old 06-28-2005, 08:11 PM
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Fifty Bucks for This?

I'll tell 'ya what onenew32, I'll sell the wife for $50.00 and throw in the car for free if you'll haul them both away and pay-off her credit card bills. BTW, the car would probably fit on your trailer but the wife definitely won't.

Thanks, olesixrod and onemoretime for the advice. I'll call Speedway this time rather than emailing them. I'll also insist on talking to a "mentor" and will give them the part number.

If Speedway doesn't do it, I'll try onenew32's list.

Thanks, buds!

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Old 07-17-2005, 03:20 PM
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I bought Part #702-2760 from Speedway's Street Rod Catalog on page 6. I really like this part. It is beefier with a lot more metal around the mounting holes than the one I took off.

I think the old part was probably the thin metal lower tie rod arm #916-32033 shown on page 7 (there just isn't much metal around the mounting holes). I think the guy who built this car bent the part to make it fit the dropped axle.

Anyway, I'm happy to have the new part even if it does cost me new (shorter) tie rod and a new drag link (maybe even a new pitman arm): man, there is just too much depending on that little tie rod arm to be chinzy with the metal around the mounting holes!

BTW, does anyone know what shock we're looking at here? I think I'll replace both of 'em while I'm at it.

Thanks for your help!
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