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Old 10-06-2008, 08:28 PM
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Dummy Newb Q--Can I get metallic paint without the metallic?

I think its a simple question, but I dont know much of anything, so here goes

I will sometime in the near future (by which I mean hopefully in the next year or so) paint my first car. I'll be primering with SPI epoxy and am still debating the final BC/CC combo and brand. I's really like to do a urethane, but I'm worried as all get out about the isos. (I'll be doing all this in the backyard (I know I know, less than optimal.)

But what my main question for this post is--can I get a metallic paint without the metal flakes? I'm really pretty hung up on the mini cooper indi blue, but its a metallic. Can I give the code to a jobber and have it mixed without the flake?

And if yes, how much is this likely to affect the color?

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is it a heavey flake?? im guessing not if its on a mini cooper. im sure they would mix it without the flake but it might change the look of it a little. the flake is a big effect to the paintjob of that color.why not look for a color that was close to the blue that doesent have flake in it.
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I'm a dupont sponsored bodyshop so I mix all of my own paint (cromabase). What seems to be metalic isn't. I haven't used actual flake in over 10yrs. What that metalic actually is is course or fine alum silver paint. Your jobber will have to play around with it to get the color you want without the metalic effect but it can be done. Also be prepaird for him to charge you for experimenting because he's going to waist some paint till he gets the color your happy with.
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Look into House of Kolor..the metallic effect is in the base coat with a top coat of the color then clear..if you use a base with no metallic effect in it you will get a plain no metallic color for the finish..

I have tried most all of it and now do what is known to work..
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Have a helpfull jobber look through the millions of colors available, and he can probably help you find a solid color formula that looks close in hue to the color you are looking for.
If you leave out the flake in the formula the color will likely be darker. Even so a solid color is not going to look exactly like a metallic, the metallic and pearls play with light and reflect it, and gives the color its glitter effect, or even change the hue on areas light hits, and gives the color flop.
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