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Old 10-10-2012, 04:29 PM
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Good Job, my friend...that will solve a lot of your compressor issues, help with getting a cleaner paint job and it just feels good when stuff comes together.

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Look, I'm all for DIY, but how many times have you handled a paint spray gun? You need a reasonably good one, though you can make do with a Harbor Freight special.

The best way to get a good but cheap paint job is to take it to Maaco or whatever the cheap paint job places around are. Now hold off and listen guys!! You do all the body work as if you're going to paint it. Include removing all the trim and everything. All you want Maaco or whoever to do is spray on paint. You might get a run or two near the rocker or something like that, but what do you think you're going to do? Unless you're fairly handy with a spray gun and get it set up just right you'll have more than a couple hard to find runs. If nothing else the kid at Maaco can handle a spray gun better than most first timers. If he's only worked there a week he's already sprayed 20+ cars, so he's had a little practice. Prep is 90% of the paint job. YOU DO THAT!! I've had a few cars sprayed like this at different places (I was USAF for 24 years, didn't stay in one place long enough to have anyone paint two cars!). They all came out AT LEAST as good as I could have done it myself, and for not much more than paint would have cost me (they get it at a discount since they buy so much). They also have a proper spray booth. Every time I've taken a car over that was 99% prepped for them they have taken a bit of extra care spraying it. One because I saved them a lot of time and work, and two because it's obvious I want it to look as good as I can for a limited budget. Well, they just like spraying something out of the ordinary too -- gets looked at, you tell where it was painted, they get more business. So it pays them in the long run. Where they make most of their money is in extra body work. Take it in there for the $250 special (no door jambs) and they will lightly scuff it, mask it off (will mask over anything left on), and spray it. You probably want to get the sealer (seals old paint before spraying new), but I'd skip the clear coat. So you end up with around $400 in a paint job. You can spend that on paint and a cheap spray gun.

You might want to get a touch-up gun and spray the dash and door jambs, and maybe under hood and other places yourself. For those I'd use a single stage and spray in light coats (kind of like spraying with a rattle can).

Base/clear is considered easier for a novice because the base goes on rather dry and doesn't easily run. It will be flat. The clear can run easy, but you can sand runs out as long as you don't over do it and go through the clear. If you do go through the clear you have to re-clear the whole panel. You can't touch-up base/clear easily. You can get by clearing from a body seam or trim line down (or up, or across) to the edge of a panel, but if you try to mask off an area and just clear that you will have a very hard time trying to blend the clear in. Some say they can do it/have done it, but I don't know of a commercial shop that will even try to touch up a small area like that. If chips and touch-ups are a concern, use a single stage paint.
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Farna, I love your responses brother! You always have great ideas. I went down to the paint shop today and checked out the factory color, I was well should I say, less than excited. So again my mind went off on another tangent of paint and I started looking at versions of Synergy Green Metalic like they use on the new cameros, its pretty cool! I dunno I am soo confuzled... I wish I had one of those programs where I could put the car into all kinds of paint schemes to see what I like.

Any way, I am gona see if I can get a hold of this guy with the booth and talk to him a little and see what he can or cant do and for what price, or preferably trade...

we shall see.

Ray, not discounting your responses at all, Farna has responded to numerous different posts I have made and gives great poor mans budget or lack there of perspective. And I love all the various ideas because it gives me a spectrum to work within.
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Ok paint and body specialists, here is my quandry. I looked up the paint code on my 59 rambler and it came up as Pine Ridge Green and crossed to dupont color 202-83427. the chip i can see online looks darker than the paint in the engine bay and on the door frames. of course the exterior is faded and not a referance. So I am considering painting the car in the factory color.

Now this car will sit OUTSIDE and UNCOVERED. So having said that and being that I am going to attempt to paint the car myself with a cheap gun, what do you suggest? I am not working on the body currently, but I am trying to put togeather a cost budget.
Well Farna, I agree if a guy is gun shy what you suggest does make sense, however In his original post he said "I am going to attempt to paint the car myself with a cheap gun, what do you suggest?" That is where my advice comes from.

Also you mentioned that a commercial shop doesn't blend clear. Well I disagree, they all do. When I was on the floor painting we blended clear daily, especially on a lower quarter repair, the clear blend was on the sail panel. I never cleared both sides of the car and the roof. Insurance companies don't pay you for that. Also, there are shops that do nothing but spot repairs and blend clear coat. It is possible, very possible and when you become good at it, it becomes invisible and second nature.

Just my experiences
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Ray all of your advice has been outstanding, I have no clue what you guys are talking about in the clear blending...

But I have a lot more information than I started with and now I am just armed enough with knowledge to be more dangerous Hahaha
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Ray all of your advice has been outstanding, I have no clue what you guys are talking about in the clear blending...

But I have a lot more information than I started with and now I am just armed enough with knowledge to be more dangerous Hahaha

Thanks I appreciate your comment and hope the information helps. As far as clear blending, well, it is a bit of an art. All good painters in commercial shops do it. Paint companies have products specifically designed for it and have courses to teach apprentices how to use it so they become painters instead of applicators.

Just one of the joys of the trade.
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