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Old 04-17-2013, 10:30 AM
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I don't see where it says no epoxy...only no self-etching primers. And Epoxy is not a self etching primer just because it can go on bare metal.
Your right, and most paints will stick to epoxy and not let go...Epoxy isn't an etch so the Eastwood paint should stick to it...it's just one of those things that require trial and error, hopefully this time it will hold up. As I mentioned, after you talked to the Eastwood rep he basically told you the same thing I did with respect to not enough solvents being evaporated from the epoxy, this time I feel you should be good to go.

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Just came from the garage, doing a little cleaning. I moved some parts around, and scraped a little against the rad support an noticed the paint came off. I didn't think that this should of happened with the light movement that I made. Just for the temptation of wondering, I grabbed the air hose and hit the support with air. Off comes the paint again. The primer still in-tack. This second time I painted this part I let the epoxy primer dry for a good 10 plus hours. Puzzled. In all the years that I've been using this primer, this is the only time that I've ever had this happen. Back to Eastwood for their input.
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Blown paint

Just came from the garage a little earlier , trying to clean-up a little. While I was trying to organize some items, I rubbed up against the rad support that I had re-painted again that the paint had come off the first time. I didn't think that I had rubbed up against it with what I was moving hard enough to scratch any of the paint off, so the temptation off the air test came back. And again, the paint just blew off as did the first time. I also looked at the inner fender-wells that I had sprayed also, and the same thing.( These were new inner fenders) Cannot figure this one out. The epoxy primer was still on the pieces. I had left a good 10 plus hours before I painted these parts. I've been using the same epoxy primer for many years and had never had this problem. I guess time to call Eastwood again.

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I've used this same paint "chassis black "on the frame of an old 52 Ford where a/freeze ,oil and gas had leaked on it and even sat in a groove that held the liquids and it stayed on after soaking the liquids up with a rag. I more or less cleaned the area and painted it w/out the epoxy primer. Just thought I'd pass that on !
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:49 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I take it from all who has used this material before that a primer really should not be used with this material as a base. I have always used this epoxy primer under everything that I have sprayed and have never had any trouble in 25+ years. I sure that Eastwoods material is a top notch material and will probably try this at some later date on another project. But for now I think that I'll just peal the remaining material off and instead of having everything sandblasted again, just use chassis saver that I know will hold over the primer that is already on these parts. Live and learn. I'm going to contact Eastwood's rep just to see what he has to say on this anyway. Again, thank to everyone who has replied to my problem that I have had with this and good luck with all of your projects.
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If this car has any value??? I would blow the stuff off and leave in the PPG epoxy, 99% of all restoration shops leave the frame and on some cars the engine compartment in epoxy, because it is much more chemical resistant, more chip proof and just plain stronger.
Why fight it and go backwards, along with wasting your money? Just my 2 cents worth.
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I have a 1979 chev. 4x4 that I'm playing with, just want to make it a clean street toy for a truck. Plans are to chop the top, lower it some, play with the paint some and see what happens. Thanks for the input.
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I've never associated Eastwood's paint products with 'top notch'...
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