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Old 09-02-2008, 08:59 PM
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Eaton Compressor

I happen to own two Eaton compressors and YES I knew buying them they where a USA design but the pumps where built over seas. My EC-10 7.5 Hp has over 8 years and 5000 Hrs on it. I think you put you foot in your mouth when you said in your own words the reviews where good! I will say again I think all you are looking for is a . If you business was as busy as mine you would find your time consumed with making money not posting this BS. I would understand you making a posting like this if you had problems but not reading this into your reply. Once again think your look to . You might think about taking up knitting in your spare time. Just an idea!!
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I happen to own two Eaton compressors and YES I knew buying them they where a USA design but the pumps where built over seas. My EC-10 7.5 Hp has over 8 years and 5000 Hrs on it. I think you put you foot in your mouth when you said in your own words the reviews where good! I will say again I think all you are looking for is a . If you business was as busy as mine you would find your time consumed with making money not posting this BS. I would understand you making a posting like this if you had problems but not reading this into your reply. Once again think your look to . You might think about taking up knitting in your spare time. Just an idea!!


I see you are new here and you need to read the entire thread before you jump in. I don't think you will find anyone knocking Eaton compressors in this thread and the many others here about the same subject. So who put their foot in their mouth? Some people want to buy American products when they can and this thread was started by someone who wanted to do just that but was disappointed to find he was buying Chinese instead, he nor anyone else was negative about the quality. You seem proud of the fact you bought Chinese? My hat is off to the original poster who wanted to buy American and you sir may soon be wondering where all that brisk business has gone to when the inevitable recession sets in from sending all our work overseas, the guy who started this thread is smart enough to see that.



BTW, ONLY 8 years? My AMERICAN made Quincy has never been overhauled and has needed only minor maintenance since it was built in 1968 and it has been in service almost continuously for FORTY years with unknown thousands of hours on it now so don't brag about Chinese crap to me! Come back here in about 20 or 30 years and then we will see what the Chinese can do.
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Oh I agree with you on this point. But buy a new Quincy now and see if you get 40 years out of it. I have seriosly worked this Eaton model hard and never let me down. But no compressor pump is built like the old ones. Well look at the new cars to the heavy duties in the 50's
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:45 AM
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Yes they are somewhat different now but they are still very well built and I have no doubt they are still bullet proof, plus they are backed by one of the oldest names in the industry. Eaton compressors are decent quality and compared to all the outright JUNK that has been sold in the last 20 or so years by outfits like Campbell Hausfeld and a bunch of others they do seem to be impressive. That however is comparing apples to oranges and when you start comparing with the Quincy's, Ingersoll Rand (the T30 series not the Mchome store variety ingersoll), etc then the Eaton is only average. Also the idea that all the old stuff was better is not necessarily true either and just because a compressor is newer and takes advantage of new technology does not mean it is not as good as the old ones.


"well look at the new cars to the heavy duties of the 50's"


Well Ok let's do that, some of the really good stuff that the manufacturers from the 50's have taken from us. There was those absolutely fantastic vacuum wipers and the sizzling hot generators that were replaced with alternators. I really miss those tube radios and other fine amenities that were available, along with the really great air conditioning that was so popular! Oh yeah lets not forget those wonderful mechanical brakes and the REALLY high quality tires that along with the wonderfully engineered suspension made them handle so great. Detroit has really taken all the good stuff from the cars and today there is not much left so yeah you are right, they sure as hell don't build them like they did!

Now about the body styles of the fifties, that is a whole nuther story!
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Just to clarify things here: judging by badboyblasters's email address, and associated website, it looks to be Mark Cain, who seems to be related to Matt Cain, the owner of Eaton Compressor. Brothers?

Anyway, badboyblasters -- Welcome to the Hotrodders Bulletin Board

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...I don't really care if Matt's compressors are made in America, China, or on the moon.

Matt Cain threatened me with a lawsuit if I didn't reveal the identity of a person who posted about how Eaton Compressor's pumps and motors are made in China. That person's post was just a quote from an email that looked to have been sent by Eaton Compressor itself.

It's actually quite sad, because Eaton Compressors do indeed appear to have at least a reasonably decent reputation. But, once again, this isn't about Matt's compressors at all. It's about Matt's behavior.

By extension, this issue is also about the tactics being used to obscure the fact that certain products are technically manufactured in China, while claiming to be "Made in the USA". For example, Matt insisted that if 60% of the total cost of bringing a product to market is American-based, then he's legally allowed to say that it's "Made in the USA". Similarly, I can see on BadBoyBlasters.com that the site has an American flag in the background, AND the Statue of Liberty, AND a bald eagle. In addition, your logo text is red, white, and blue, AND, the "bad boy" figure in your logo is wearing an American flag bandanna. A non-savvy person, when exposed to all that imagery, can reasonably be expected to assume that your blasters are "Made in the USA".
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What continues to amaze me in these, Eaton, Street Beast, etc threads, is that some of these people are so stupid to think that since they are sitting behind a computer screen, that they are invisible, nameless, or un-trackable. Wake up people, it is the 21st century.
I love it.
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What continues to amaze me in these, Eaton, Street Beast, etc threads, is that some of these people are so stupid to think that since they are sitting behind a computer screen, that they are invisible, nameless, or un-trackable. Wake up people, it is the 21st century.
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Yep and the other thing they don't seem to realize is the kind of impression they are making on this huge community, absolutely astounding numbers with just the members alone and when you add the visitors that read all this it is staggering. The thing is this group is made up in large part with people who may very well be in the market for a compressor so what kind of impression does it make when these guys get caught?
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Recently got a quote from Eaton on one of their units because I'm looking to upgrade to a 7 1/2 HP. After reading this thread I've decided to buy a Quincey instead. Easy to rebuild and last forever. My Buddy was looking for a replacement pump for his system and I suggested he look at the Eaton. I'll email him a link to this thread. I just love the internet!!!!!!

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I bought an Eaton pump ( the 32 cfm model) and a 7.5 hp motor from them as well. The motor was way less than half of what it would have cost me locally. I called Eaton compressor before the purchase, and they made no bones telling me right up front that the units were made in China, to their own specs. In fact, Matt Cain helped me make my choice of compressor easier. I was tired of talking to compressor sales people that insisted their unit was big enough to run a blast cabinet. I have a friend that let me use his medium size Quincy regularly, and it wouldn't keep up to his blast cabinet. Matt told me I needed 18 cfm minimum, and told me that his 32 cfm unit actual output was 26 cfm. That is what I bought and it does the job very well. That was over two years ago. Very happy, and no problems whatsoever.

I also bought a blast cabinet from Bad Boys, and at the time I was told that the two of them were brothers, although I can't remember which one of them told me that. Very happy with the blast cabinet as well.

Only thing I don't like is someone "slightly" masquerading as an uninvolved third party. I have no relationship to either company, other than being a happy customer.
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............I called Eaton compressor before the purchase, and they made no bones telling me right up front that the units were made in China, to their own specs. In fact, Matt Cain helped me make my choice of compressor easier...........
Well, based on this information I would say that Mr. Cain has ZERO CREDIBILITY and absolutely no basis for any legal action against this board or anyone else for that matter. What a dork.
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Dork confirmed!
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I probably should have read the "other" post on this, before I posted. Holy crap batman, I might get sued.

Now, if anyone wants to question my honesty, here's another addition to my story. Sorry, this will take a few sentences to explain.

When I ordered my blast cabinet from Bad Boy Blasters, I told them what color I wanted, ..........then I called them back and said I changed my mind. Mark Cain asked if I was in a hurry, 'cause the next container that was coming in wouldn't be for a couple weeks. ( Must be coming from a long ways away,eh?) Anyway, I said no problem, I would wait. Then, he contacted me to ask if I would wait again, 'cause he was shipping a double unit to someone, and wanted to send them mine. I said no problem, as I originally had stated that I wasn't in any big hurry to get mine.

I have my stuff shipped to the UPS warehouse in Sweetgrass MT, and once it arrived, I went down to pick it up. Brought it home, and put the legs on it, used it and have been very happy with the unit.

A couple weeks later, I called down to the UPS warehouse to see if they had received another package, (unrelated to this transaction). They said yes, they had it, but they also had a large crate waiting for me as well. I asked them who it was from, and they said it was from Bad Boy Blasters.

I said they must have made a mistake, as I had already received mine. They said it definitely had my name and address on it. So, I called Bad Boy, and asked if they had sent me a second blast cabinet. They said no. I asked, are you absolutely sure? They checked records, and called me back to say no, they had not shipped a second unit.

I told them to check again, or had they shipped one to the same address for someone else? They replied that no, they had not. So........I was faced with the decision. Do I go down and pick up my new, and FREE blast cabinet, and keep my mouth shut? Or, do I tell them about it, so I can live with myself?

I'm sure that this transaction could be traced, ( just in case I were ever sued, and needed proof of my honesty), and yes, I did the right thing and called them back and told them they had a 2nd blast cabinet sitting there, and I was not going to take it. I told them I was not going to pay the return shipping either, as I didn't order two of them. I have no idea what happened to the 2nd cabinet after that. I gave them the contact info, and I assume they made their own arrangements. Honest injun.
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jvo, I'm sure you weren't fishing for an attaboy but you deserve one. Even if they are dorks/********* or not, it doesn't justify taking (stealing) a free blast cabinet.

I push myself to a higher standard to set an example for my kids and I would like to think I would have done the same thing.

But back to the issue, yeah Eton compressors are fine, Cain's behavior is not.
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There is so much discussion going on about Eaton compressors that they need somebody to come and register on this bulletin board to defend their product. I am so impressed, they don't even have the guts to say who they are. I guess it is just like labeling their product made in America when it is made in China. I hope you know how to speak, read and write Chinese, because one of these days this country is going to be theirs, greedy cooperate sellouts.
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There is so much discussion going on about Eaton compressors that they need somebody to come and register on this bulletin board to defend their product.

I think maybe they are here but true to their way of thinking they are trying to hide the fact.
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