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Old 01-19-2012, 11:32 AM
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I wonder if there has been anymore action tried by the Eaton company? I kinda get the feeling that Mr. Cain may have jumped in before contacting the PR dept, (or even the legal dept) and is now in HOLY S#!T mode. He is pretty much fighting a losing battle, IMHO, as this has been tried here twice before, and lost.


If it is still going forward, GOOOOO JON!!!! As you have shot down two previous attemts at this, may as well have another. You know, 2 more wins and you make "ace", lol!! Gonna have to paint some "kills" on the fender of your ride, lol!!

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Old 01-19-2012, 05:48 PM
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I have allways considered Eaton products to be a good product,because they were. Being made in america ,with good quality control, you could depend on what you were buying to be good quality.
Made in china is a drag, but if his products are still good quality , people will buy them , and thats the bottom line. Cain needs to take a chill pill before he has a coronary and takes a dirt nap because of all the stress.
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Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not too thrilled with my 5hp/60gal one stage from Eaton. I took delivery in December 2011 directly from Eaton and I'm on my fourth warranty pump already! Thats four pumps in 8 months!
The first pump had a valve stick which fried one of the three cylinders. Two pumps were pigs and took almost 10 minutes to pressurize from 0 to 135psi. The heads leaked no matter how tight the head bolts were on those two. Now I'm on pump number 4 and I've got about 6 good hours of use. No heads are leaking but it doesn't come up to pressure as fast as Eaton says it should. This pump does 0 to 135 in 5:45. Not the "just under 5 minutes" I was told.
When I called about pump number 2 leaking oil and air from all three heads Matt told me to give it a couple hundred hours of break-in-time and they should seal right up. Yeah, ok. So I called back later asked for the piston service and warranty manager whom immediately sent out the 3rd pump after I explained the problem. Did I mention I had to drill out bolt holes for the pump base to have fit the tank that was sent by Eaton in the first place.
You don't always get what you paid for. I will say that the replacement pumps were sent promptly. Although it doesn't make up for having to assemble and disasemble 4 freaking pumps when I dropped $1300 on something that I work on more than my projects!!!My head hurts now.
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Eaton non USA

After serving 21 years in the Marines and belonging to the Carpenters Union for five years, everything I buy these days has to be " Made in the USA". Eaton don't like it and now he is starting a new company with a "silent partner" from China. Must have forgot he lives in the USA. Eaton or any of the other manufactures making things over seas have lost my business.
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I'm not sure if this is already posted-I didn't read all 12 pages-but this is off Eaton's website. y question is "ate all those little American flag stickers made in the USA,too?

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To compare "apples to apples" on where a product is made can be very challenging. We have attached a Product Disclosure Form that you can print off and take to your air compressor providers to have them complete so you will know where the product and its components are manufactured. Just because you see the American Flag sticker on the front of the unit does not mean it was actually made in the USA. There are many factors that you need to be aware of before purchasing a unit. 1. Where the parts were manufactured? 2. Warranty? 3. What are the replacement parts going to cost for the unit you are purchasing? We have seen 5 HP compressor pumps that are over $1,000.00 for a rebuild kit. We use international compressor pumps built in one of our own factories. This is why you see "EATON" in our castings. One out of every 100 compressors is built in the USA. We strive to give Americans jobs (the majority of our piston-type unit's components are made here in the USA) but have to also keep PREMIUM quality at a reasonable price with a 5-YEAR BUMPER-TO BUMPER Warranty on all parts - NOT PRO-RATED!!! Our quality and price is the best on the market. Our goal is to beat our competition name-brand and non-name brand. Have your compressor company complete this form and if you have any questions about what they have filled out on the form, you can call me personally.

Starting October 28th, 2008, We are putting an American flag sticker on the items that are made in the USA. For example, our tanks are made in the USA, So we have placed an American Flag Sticker on the tank that states this tank is manufactured in the USA. These stickers will be placed on every item that is made in the USA. This gives the consumer a clear direction when purchasing our compressor on how much of the complete unit is made in the USA.

I can only think of 2 companies that build compressors here in the USA.

Ultimately, we encourage our customers and potential customers to compare our product to any product in the industry. You the buyer, should know exactly what you are buying and from whom you are buying it from.

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Are there reasons why a person(s) from a company can't live--and work in China to oversee the quality output of the product(s) being produced?

.17 cents an hour vs. $24/hr to produce a product is too hard to ignore and it's understandable why a company may choose this route.

This way the company still produces a quality product, while saving enormously on production costs, and the managers still make over 100,000 while doing very little actual work.

Why isn't this happening?
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Wow. Old post, but i am in the market for a nice compressor. I will NOT be buying an eaton anything strictly based upon Matt Cains actions. Glad I found this thread first - thanks for having the balls to write such a post!
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Not only you but I would imagine lots of other folks because a heck of a lot of perspective buyers have seen how they can expect to be treated by Eaton!

Nice compressor=Quincy (Yep I'm biased but I have a darn good reason to be ).

Good deals on Quincys can be found at Northern tool.
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I just tried responding but the site timed out so my post didn't make it (I dont think, anyway). An interesting post. I think the company's best approach would have been to simply sign up for an acct at this forum and responded directly to the poster who made the claims and simply respond in a professional manner. And the world can read it as a response to these supposed untrue claims. Threatening legal action seems silly, esp for someone making a comment on a forum. If they WERE made in China then the poster is not incorrect and this is not slander; it's the truth. The implication is that they once were but the majority are now made in the US. Semantics? I'm glad you brought this situation to light....
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we have the 2nd highest corporate tax on the planet . between unions and the epa there is very little to no mfg in this country any more. you will be hard pressed to buy american these days . sad but true. until we have some serious tax reform we are doomed to be a service industry . while i detest the way eaton reacted i can not blame them for out sourcing . numbers dont lie .
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. What's interesting is they want to sell products at high American wage prices, but make stuff overseas with foreign under $1/hr. workers... WHO do they think they're going to sell to after a while... and WHO makes the difference in dollars between cheap made and high sale price... well, guess we know that...
. I think on about middle pages here somebody said their '5 year warranty bumper to bumper warranty' turned out to be 2 years on most parts... plus, some kind of yearly service and testing required to even get that...
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It's amazing that there is little to no manufacturing left in the USA anymore, and yet we're ranked #2, second only to China in manufacturing. It just doesn't add up.
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Also, while I was looking around I discovered another US manufacturer in addition to Quincy...

http://us.fscurtis.com/about
. That Curtis-Toledo name has me wondering if they are an offshoot of DeVilbiss Compressors that used to be here in Toledo... I'd be seriously suspicious of whether they are USA made anymore... since they aren't based anywhere near here anymore... they're in Missouri and California now...

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depends on how you rate it. per capita japan leads , china is the #1 exporter . we have lost entire industries over the years. a lot of the manufacturing counted here is just assembly with parts made in mexico and elsewhere. the only country with a higher tax rate is japan . which is what is crippling them now. it is one of the big issues with their new government .
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It's amazing that there is little to no manufacturing left in the USA anymore, and yet we're ranked #2, second only to China in manufacturing. It just doesn't add up.
. Figures lie and liars figure...

. If the Eaton motor and pump are made in China and the tank in USA and they are claiming 60% USA Made, so can have a 'Made in USA' sticker on it, they must be measuring in inches... height of tank is 60% of height of tank/motor/compressor... LOL!

. Japans Nikkei 225 stock market index has fallen from like 80,000 long ago to only 15,728 today... but our DOW is highest ever at 17,000's... much higher than the 6,000's BushJr. dragged it down to from the near 12,000 he got it at...

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