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the second link is a gm goodwrench engine, which is stock in my book.

I have piles and piles of chevy high performance, hot rod, and super chevys, and there are maybe 10 stock or very near stock builds with intake comparisons published. But, that doesn't mean they are on the web.

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the second link is a gm goodwrench engine
The OP has a Ford.

His problem seems to be an oil consumption problem of some sort- which if is caused by a faulty gasket seal, can be cured by using the correct gasket and installaition for it- regardless of the intake used.

If the Al intake is faulty, don't use it again. Simple, really.
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When I pull the intake what should I look for to see if the intake is at fault,since its the second intake I had problems with the factory will most likely go back on.
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When I pull the intake what should I look for to see if the intake is at fault,since its the second intake I had problems with the factory will most likely go back on.
Use some white paper toweling and blot the bottoms of the intake runners to see if there's oil present. If it's bad enough, you won't need towels to see it.

If this is the second different intake that has given you problems, I'd be looking closely at the technique used to install it, along w/the type of gaskets used.
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First intake was used and from ebay so who knows what was done to it and the second one came with Mr Gasket gaskets and bolts with a installation kit,bolts would not hold torque and ended up loosening and one broke so I hope the gaskets did not seal as I dont want to throw away another manifold. Should the gaskets go on without any sealer as I put some on both sides since I had problems with the previous intake.
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First intake was used and from ebay so who knows what was done to it and the second one came with Mr Gasket gaskets and bolts with a installation kit,bolts would not hold torque and ended up loosening and one broke so I hope the gaskets did not seal as I dont want to throw away another manifold. Should the gaskets go on without any sealer as I put some on both sides since I had problems with the previous intake.
I always install the gaskets per the manufacturer's instructions, w/the sometimes exception of using a thin layer of RTV around the water crossover points if they are rough from rust or corrosion.

Hard gaskets (like Permatorque) aren't advised, I'd say no to a steel shim-type gasket as well. Instead use a gasket like a Felpro Print-o-Seal #1250, Edelbrock #7220, or a composite-type gasket w/some "give" to it.
Edelbrock says “Do not use Fel-Pro Permatorque gaskets for any aluminum intake manifold. Use the correct Edelbrock, OEM replacement, or Fel-Pro Printoseal gaskets.”

Spray Gasgacinch onto the head flanges and head side of the gaskets and allow to dry for a minute before laying it into position. Use RTV on the front and rear walls, w/a dab of RTV at the corners of the gasket where it meets the walls. More HERE.

Good quality fasteners are needed, a good grade 5 bolt like the OEM uses will work fine. Don't forget to use thread sealer on the threads.

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Thats why I love this site. I was debating very hard on should I get a performer intake to put on my 305sbc and from what Ive read with my setup i'd loose bottom end which is all I want. I've bolted headers and carb on my 305 and was thinking of another bolt on to add bottom end but I see I gotta scratch that perf intake. So what next then?
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Thats why I love this site. I was debating very hard on should I get a performer intake to put on my 305sbc and from what Ive read with my setup i'd loose bottom end which is all I want. I've bolted headers and carb on my 305 and was thinking of another bolt on to add bottom end but I see I gotta scratch that perf intake. So what next then?
There are aluminum Q-jet intakes for your engine that are available, they were used stock on many carbed 305 and 350 engines just before EFI came along and are very common on ebay, etc. It should be used w/a Q-jet carb, not a squarebore.

Where the Performer comes into play, is when a squarebore carb is used. If you use a squarebore w/an adapter on a stock Q-jet intake, there's a loss of flow due to the adapter. It's better to use an intake like the Edelbrock EPS w/a squarebore on an engine like yours.
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I think thats what I have. I have edelbrock 600 with an adapter on a stock intake. What is it again I need to get to put the carb on?
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I think thats what I have. I have edelbrock 600 with an adapter on a stock intake. What is it again I need to get to put the carb on?
Ideally, you would get a good Q-jet for the OEM intake, or a second option, almost as good, is to use the squarebore carb on an intake like the Edelbrock EPS.
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So do I invest in an edelbrock eps. if so I dont need the adapter anymore?
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So do I invest in an edelbrock eps. if so I dont need the adapter anymore?
The EPS will take the squarebore carb w/o an adapter, that's correct.
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Just for the sake of knowing, will it make a noticable diff in performance. 305sbc, headers, eddy 600, 700r4, 3:08 gears, 86 Chevy C10, true dual 40 flowmasters
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Just for the sake of knowing, will it make a noticable diff in performance. 305sbc, headers, eddy 600, 700r4, 3:08 gears, 86 Chevy C10, true dual 40 flowmasters
Honestly, I doubt it. You might see a reduction in ET at the track if the engine and carb were tuned to a tee, but seat of the pants, prob. not.

A Q-jet, properly set up on a factory aluminum intake would likely perform the best w/a stock engine w/headers in your C10. Next to that, the Edelbrock EPS and carb.
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Awesome, so i wont bother to shed that money then. Its in the shop now getting gears put in it so ill see if that gives me a little more. Not quite ready to shed money for a 350 either the 305 drives pretty darn good.
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