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Old 04-01-2011, 12:22 AM
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I see you sold the Streetmaster. I had one on a 302 Ford motor. Off-idle throttle response was unbelievable, but she petered out on the other end. Great street manifold idle to 4000.
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Actually, funny story. I decided to sell it to my old friend, he came out and looked at it, and he wanted the first version( non dual bolt pattern)...SO

The question is now, Can I pass emissions without the EGR on, I am thinking yes, but! now I might need a catalytic converter to help pass. I have experience with tuning for emissions, and one time, was 340hp and no EGR, so... I guess I am saying.....

THE STREETMASTER IS GOING ON! hahah... I have huge progress in my build.

It will be pretty cool to have a 1975 intake, on my 1981 car, with a 92 700r4 transmissions and 2005 lincoln electric fan! hahah.

My experienced friend said tonight on the phone, that, a quadrajet on the streetmaster I have, will be FINE! It was designed for them. So, I am going to do it, I have a 80's 305 quadrajet, so thing should be economic.

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This guy is the Quadrajet guru, in case you need some help tuning it....
http://www.cliffshighperformance.com/
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:42 AM
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You've already been advised by two of us in this thread not to use the square bore StreetMaster with an adapter plate and a Quadrajet, as it screws up the metering something awful....but it is plain you aren't looking for advice, just someone to play along with you choices and give you a "thumbs up" on your build .

There are no intakes produced in the "glorious past" that are better in any way to todays computer designed and airflow analyzed designs. If there were any that were better...they would still be making them.

And now you are saying you have to add emissions testing into the picture...good luck with it, I'm out of this thread.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:07 AM
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Yes, I ovbiously matched the cam and lifters together, they are the same set. Same push rods, and rockers as well.. It will be fine for many more kms and is not sketchy at all, when done correctly.

You are incorrect and asking for trouble. The small block's lifter bore angles are about as consistent as their deck heights. It's a gamble. But it appears as though you are assembling a time bomb, and factoring in that it's a 305, a very inefficient time bomb as well. It's obvious that you're not really here for advice. Good luck.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:03 AM
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" Great street manifold idle "

The vacuum enhancement from a dual plane manifold can be too strong , and restrictive like a choke on big blocks .The low small single plane manifolds work so well, the intakes with narrow cathedraling paths, and walls slanting into the center. The manifold targets the power rpm area a vehicle drives in. Great relaxed muscle car idle sound , because of a intake.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:44 AM
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You are incorrect and asking for trouble. The small block's lifter bore angles are about as consistent as their deck heights. It's a gamble. But it appears as though you are assembling a time bomb, and factoring in that it's a 305, a very inefficient time bomb as well. It's obvious that you're not really here for advice. Good luck.
I guess we will find out won't we
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:53 PM
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There are two different flanges on the SM intakes that I'm aware of and both have dual bolt patterns. I don't know of a SM intake that has only one bolt pattern- but then I don't use or advise the use of these small runner single plane intakes in the first place, so I'm no authority on them.

That said, if the intake looks like the one below, you can use a Q-jet, preferably w/a Q-jet spacer because the intake is so low, which puts the carb base too close to the plenum bottom. This is especially problematic w/the Q-jet because that carb generates such good velocity through the primaries that the air/fuel mixture hits the plenum floor and gets disrupted.



If on the other hand the flange looks like a squarebore and requires an adaptor to use the Q-jet, let me be the third member who advises against this.

OT- It seems that more and more, (new and/or young) members here have the attitude that they are the first ones to think of a particular idea- be it using a crappy set of heads and putting labor into polishing that turd, or that somehow THEY can cheat the laws of nature/physics and do what has been shown time and time again to be a dead end or a course of diminishing returns. Let me assure them- there is precious little 'new' under the sun. Whoever said "those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it" was correct.

I'm NOT saying to not think outside the box. I AM saying that reinventing the wheel at every turn is a very inefficient use of your resources- be it time, labor or money.

In the past, hotrodders would have killed for a set of Vortec heads, or an 1850 Holley carb that flowed 850 cfm out of the box, or a valve spring that would stand up to 7000 RPM use w/o sending a valve through the piston.

My point is: Unless a period-correct build is wanted, or a "just because/I don't care/I want to be "different" " attitude is guiding you, avail yourself of the best of what is available and in your budget. To do less is a waste of time, energy and money.
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And to add a bit too that, it seems like the younger generation never has the time or money to do it right, but will always have the resources to do it over. Simply amazing.
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I guess we will find out won't we
Grab your ankles.
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LMAO! Thats what I was thinking.
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I have good news, and bad news. The bad news is first.... I am experiencing grumpy old men syndrom on this board. Good news is... I have a line on a cleaned and sand blasted performer intake for 60, that I am picking up tomorrow. After everything I read, the street master just is not worth the money it needs for a stripped thread and a bead blasting.

The street master is on the shelf for a rainy day fix up or trade. Also, this engine is not permenent, it is just to get me threw emissions and a couple months of non daily driving. I am slowly going to be building up a propane high compression 350, yes I am going propane in a car, unless I finally win the lottery.

I do not work right now, so you can imagine the budget for building and driving. All I am doing is buying and selling and etc to make funds...

SO keep your asshat commentrs to yourself, didn't your mother say " If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"

By the way, I am into my car for 700 dollars, and it is almost running.
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I have good news, and bad news. The bad news is first.... I am experiencing grumpy old men syndrom on this board. Good news is... I have a line on a cleaned and sand blasted performer intake for 60, that I am picking up tomorrow. After everything I read, the street master just is not worth the money it needs for a stripped thread and a bead blasting.

The street master is on the shelf for a rainy day fix up or trade. Also, this engine is not permenent, it is just to get me threw emissions and a couple months of non daily driving. I am slowly going to be building up a propane high compression 350, yes I am going propane in a car, unless I finally win the lottery.

I do not work right now, so you can imagine the budget for building and driving. All I am doing is buying and selling and etc to make funds...

SO keep your asshat commentrs to yourself, didn't your mother say " If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"

By the way, I am into my car for 700 dollars, and it is almost running.
Hey, pal, if you don't want advice and you're not going to listen to what experience has to say, then don't ask.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:21 PM
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Hey, Pal!
I think your taking this "internet" thing, WAY to serious.



And honestly, your internet opinion, does not make me give a **** AT ALL in non internet life.
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Grab your ankles.

Sounds like you have experience in said subject.
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