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Old 08-08-2005, 01:50 PM
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Endura EX-2C as Frame paint?

Hi,

Someone has suggested that I use Endura EX-2C Black (#160) on my freshly sandblasted frame. They say that it is "tough as nails".

My question is: Can I apply it directly or would it have to be primed first with Endura primer? (EP-FD)

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I surly would not be taking anyones opinion on this! This kind of redo requires body-off and a lot of work.

I would get tech sheet from company or call company and get from horses mouth instead of horses --well you know the rest of the story.
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I surly would not be taking anyones opinion on this! This kind of redo requires body-off and a lot of work.

I would get tech sheet from company or call company and get from horses mouth instead of horses --well you know the rest of the story.
Hi Barry,
Thanks for the advice ... that's exactly what I did.

http://www.endura.ca/adobe/topcoats/ex2ctopcoat.pdf
The EX-2C is a polyurethane industrial top coating with a "pencil-hardness" of 2H which they say withstands abrasion very well.

As I suspected, it DOES require an epoxy primer, which needs to be sanded before applying the top-coat.
http://www.endura.ca/adobe/epfdepoxyprimer.pdf

I was hoping for a durable "one-shot" coating ... any suggestions?

There is also a place nearby that does powder coating, but I know very little about the cost or durability. Any comments on that idea?
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Looks like a good epoxy and I understand it to have a 7 day open coat.

In short above 60 degrees you can spray the polyurethane over it without sanding the epoxy for 7 days.

I would spray the epoxy and let set at least overnight if not two nights, than no other prep is necessary just spray your single stage.

Note the epoxy has a 30 minute induction time:
That means activate it one part to one part, mix and let set AT LEAST 30 minutes, then mix with stick again and spray.

2H hardness is typical of a polyurethane and an excellent standard.
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Thanks Barry.

Although this is gonna be (relatively) expensive ...

Epoxy Primer:
1 qt EPFD-A $45.00
1 qt EPFD-B $47.00

Black paint:
1 qt #160-A $32.25
1 qt EX2C-B $32.25

3M 07178 respirator mask $51.00
(hopefully it will keep the isocyanides from killing me)

It's what I'm going to do. It should look fairly "pro", and as you said, it's a huge "re-do" otherwise.

I just keep telling myself "I'm saving a ton on labor"

Another upside to this is that I'm pretty fussy, so I'll have no-one to blame but myself if this truck doesn't turn out the way I want it!

If the weather is good I may shoot the frame this weekend. Wish me luck and watch my project journal for progress.

I think that I'll give the bottom side of the cab the same treatment when I get that far.

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Justify it this way!
What ever your body shop labor rate is ($45?). an hour, just tell your wife after you spent 8 hours in the garage how much you saved!

Take your time spraying, don't rush and remember when painting "time is always on your side" (that means don't rush the coats)
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