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Getting a list together before I start assembly of my brothers sbf 302. This will be a stock build. I did a total dis-assembly with sockets and a pulley puller (for balancer), was in very good condition.

What I have in my possession for engine build
dial caliper
jacks
jack stands
engine lift
engine stand
Standard and Metric sockets/ ratchets 1/4", 3/8", 1/2"
Standard and Metric wrenches
Adjustable wrenches
screw driver set
1/2" Torque Wrench
ring compressor
feeler gauge
tap and die set

What I need in my possession for engine build
deckbridge not needed
dial indicator with base
piston ring installer need another type
piston ring squaring tool dont need
stud removal tool
valve lash tool skip
valve lash tool 2 skip
ring file seen this on another thread, reasonable price.
degree wheel add to now list

what I want for my next build


cam bearing tool

I feel I am missing some things, need some help adding anything missing.

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Go for it

Heck with getting ready to start, man. Go for it! If/when you figure out there is something you need, Abilene has plenty of sources for whatever tool you may be missing. Jump in.
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well I have to wait about 3 weeks, engine is at machine shop getting cleaned up, so I figured Id get a head start on tools that I will need.

tools in Abilene, local guys are kinda pricey (yea I know) and their selection is not that great. You been around Abilene, where did/ do you shop.
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better have the degree wheel for the first one... is the machine shop putting in the cam bearings??
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better have the degree wheel for the first one... is the machine shop putting in the cam bearings??
i was thinking about getting the wheel but am trying to get a decent set of heads, so trying not to blow to much right now. I have read that if i install the cam straight up with number one cylinder at TDC i would not need a wheel....did I misinterpret that? The machine shop will be installing the cam bearing, i can justify the 40 for that vs the tool for now. I hope to get cam tool when i do the 350 chevy
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If you are on a budget skip the valve lash tools as you can do this just as easy with a box end wrench and a single allen wrench.

Beam type torque wrench has more uses and is more accurate than a clicker type. Clickers need to be treated with care, always returned to zero setting when put away or left setting overnight to preserve the spring inside, and will need to be kept calibrated which means you have to send it out to be checked.

The mag base and deck bridge can perform the same function as long as you aren't trying to use it as a solid piston stop. Been doing it 20 years and never "needed" a deck bridge, it would be on the "cost no object extra's" list.

My experience has shown that particular piston ring installer tool to be better at breaking rings than installing them because it doesn't have some kind of adjustable stop to keep you from squeezing it a little too much and breaking the ring in half. Got one of those, haven't used it in 15+ years.

Job of the ring squaring tool can be done with a simple slide adjustable machinist's square, which has other uses too.

The stud removal tool only removes tight screw-in studs that don't have a hex or allen to wrench them out, it doesn't remove press fit studs.

Definately buy the degree wheel before you buy any of the above tools, it's far more important. Also the ring filer.

Add a set (or at least the single correct length version for the SBF you are working on first) adjustable pushrod length checker if you plan to do this very often.

Take the money you saved on not buying the other stuff and get a dial bore guage so you can do accurate bearing bore/cylinder bore measurement, along with a set of 0-6 micrometers w/calibration standards. There are some decent deals on Ebay, new and used.

Cam bearing tool makes a nice addition if you have the money.

Don't get caught up in thinking you need all the specialized "doo-dad show- off magazine tools" and get good basic multi purpose tools and precision measurement tools.

Just some advice from a machinist and engine builder .
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i edited my original post...


this will work?
dial bore gauge
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found these on ebay. i have no clue what type of ring installer I will be needing. These do not seem right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PISTO...motiveQ5fTools

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pisto...motiveQ5fTools
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this will work?
dial bore gauge
I couldn't find mention of the graduation(resolution) of the indicator, if it is in thousandths it will be tough to get a true measurement smaller than 1/2 a thousandth of an inch(.0005, or 5 tenths), you can eyeball a 1/2 or maybe 1/4 of a thousandths of an inch comparitively but won't be able to truly measure as small as 1 ten-thousandths of an inch(commonly called "tenths"-.0001"- by machinists). If it is in thousandths you will be able to do general, purpose work like basic bearing cleearances and bore sizes, but won't be good enough for really fine tuning bearing clearances like in a race engine. You've picked a good basic guage for general purpose rebuild type work, it will work for all but a true race engine shop .
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found these on ebay. i have no clue what type of ring installer I will be needing. These do not seem right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PISTO...motiveQ5fTools

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pisto...motiveQ5fTools
1st link went to a ring compressor, will work fine.

Second link went to ring installer(expander) but has a size range too small for automotive work. It is the better type however, with a stop on it, if you can find one in a bigger size it will work. Like a lot of engine builders I just use the ends of my thumbs and thumb nails, but it will leave you with sore thumbs if you aren't doing it everyday LOL.
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I couldn't find mention of the graduation(resolution) of the indicator, if it is in thousandths it will be tough to get a true measurement smaller than 1/2 a thousandth of an inch(.0005, or 5 tenths), you can eyeball a 1/2 or maybe 1/4 of a thousandths of an inch comparitively but won't be able to truly measure as small as 1 ten-thousandths of an inch(commonly called "tenths"-.0001"- by machinists). If it is in thousandths you will be able to do general, purpose work like basic bearing cleearances and bore sizes, but won't be good enough for really fine tuning bearing clearances like in a race engine. You've picked a good basic guage for general purpose rebuild type work, it will work for all but a true race engine shop .
will see about getting a more accurate one when I go big time
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ok I have a little time here.

I own this one
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...ReviewsWrapper


found these
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...+torque+wrench

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...+torque+wrench

I will need a beam type anyway for when I rebuild the rearend.

I may end up making my own cam bearing tool
home made cam bearing tool
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also, can not find the dial indicator that will read to the ten thousandths. may need help with that one.
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