Mike, don't take offense but I find your wording a little confusing. Let me see if I can help you though. I assume your talking about motor mounts. The motor mounts bolt directly to the vehicles crossmember (one on each side naturally and metal to metal) Then there are also two solid metal parts that bolt directly to the block, metal to metal, (one on each side). Oh and if you do an engine swap buy new motor mounts, don't reuse the old ones.