i had just pluged the vac to see what the initial timing was, did't matter the vac advance didnt work anyway, plus everything was out of adjustment, and gummed up, the weights were sticky opening and hung up when closing. I picked up a MSD pro billet, 6a box, blaster coil, and wires for a great price off a local craigslist find, it is in GREAT shape but it had the big 7445 pro-cap and rotor kit on it which was about 1/2 inch too big (not enough room with the firewall on the truck) soooo i am waiting on a new cap, rotor, and vac can, and weights/advance kit (he had it locked out) from summit. Even with all that i still got a good deal, everything looks barely used. Will try again on monday when the parts get here, but from the condition of the old distributor it really seems like that is the issue.
thanks for everyone's help and patience, hopefully this is the magic fix.
anyone wanna buy a big MSD pro-cap kit, like new