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Old 10-09-2005, 09:25 PM
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Ha ha, very funny.....NOT!! I just do not believe in stop gap measures to deal with engine problems. Pour in "snake oil" additives are a pet peeve for me. Sure some work somewhat by raising the oil viscosity to the point where the oil control rings can again somewhat control the oil...for a short time. An additive that claims to bond to metal or fill microscopic voids in metal are a bunch of baloney, plane and simple.

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I respect your opinion and your right to exercise your beliefs. This is America.

But lots of us have seen dramatic improvements.

Nobody is claiming that it bores and strokes your engine to 500 hp.
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I've heard Lucas (fuel system cleaner) is good, Seafoam is the best, MMO (marvel mystery oil) is alright, does a good job at freeing stuck rings (pour in plug holes, wait overnight, crank engine without plugs to purge cylinders of MMO, wipe mess, install plugs and go)

I use acetone in my fuel, 2.5oz/10gal, and picked up a couple mpg.
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I've heard Lucas (fuel system cleaner) is good, Seafoam is the best, MMO (marvel mystery oil) is alright, does a good job at freeing stuck rings (pour in plug holes, wait overnight, crank engine without plugs to purge cylinders of MMO, wipe mess, install plugs and go)

I use acetone in my fuel, 2.5oz/10gal, and picked up a couple mpg.


I dont know about useing seafoam in the oil, but I swear that stuff works awesome in the gas. It helped my vette pick up a little pep, as well as my truck. But this past summer we tried some in a jet ski that had set a couple years with old gas. Within 30 seconds of running it, felt a MAJOR difference Felt like an entirely different jetski after that!


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Ha ha, very funny.....NOT!! I just do not believe in stop gap measures to deal with engine problems. Pour in "snake oil" additives are a pet peeve for me. Sure some work somewhat by raising the oil viscosity to the point where the oil control rings can again somewhat control the oil...for a short time. An additive that claims to bond to metal or fill microscopic voids in metal are a bunch of baloney, plain and simple.

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I beg to differ with this statement. My senior year in highschool, I did an "experiment" for a 4-H project to see whether or not some of these so-called snake oil additives did any good. I took a well used 3.5hp briggs motor, pulled it apart and photographed both the cylinder walls and piston skirts. I also measured compression, and did a "seat of my pants" power feeling on my old go-cart. I poured in a measured amount of Engine Restore, keeping engine restore/engine oil ratios the same. I ran the engine for 40 (I figured 2000 miles for a conservative oil change, 2000 miles/60 mph average= 40 hours.) hours at varying RPMs, shut it down and did compression tests again. It had jumped amazingly, and I changed oil, added the same amount of engine restore, and repeated the 40 hour engine run. I measure compression, more increase was noted, and I put the engine back on the old go-cart. Even for a small 3.5hp briggs, I noticed an increase in power. To not be biased, I used a friend who did not know about the test, and he noted the increase in performance as well. Again I disassembled the engine, photographed the cylinder walls and piston skirts again, and they were also notable smoother. Though I understand that a small Briggs engine is much different that a small block in size and strength, the components are similar as is the general function. I received a blue ribbon at the state fair, and have become a believer of the stuff.
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That is quite interesting, adryan16.
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This **** is the closest thing to rebuild in a can. I've seen it used on many different cars and it ALWAYS makes a noticeable improvement. You'll need to use it every oil change though, for the greatest impact. Once in a while helps, but not nearly as much as continued use.
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Can't argue with all these scientific tests


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Ha ha, very funny.....NOT!! I just do not believe in stop gap measures to deal with engine problems. Pour in "snake oil" additives are a pet peeve for me. Sure some work somewhat by raising the oil viscosity to the point where the oil control rings can again somewhat control the oil...for a short time. An additive that claims to bond to metal or fill microscopic voids in metal are a bunch of baloney, plain and simple.

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yeah, I could buy that. I don't really know that it fills in any gaps with other solids, it does seem a little far fetched. It does seem to help in a tired motor, though. To me it doesn't really make a difference how it works, but it seems to do something worthwhile.

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Restore doe's WORK.
Maybe some snake oil would help your rod knock.
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I always wonder how those gray particles at the bottom of the can get by the oil filter. Aren't they the stuff that supposedly fills in the grooves?
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Its right up there with magnets on your fuel lines, tornado air directers and cryogenically treated golf clubs.
Its maaagggggiiiic..... dont you know it maaaagiic.....
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Use whatever you want. It's just a matter of time before you come to see guys like ME! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!

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Its right up there with magnets on your fuel lines, tornado air directers and cryogenically treated golf clubs.
Its maaagggggiiiic..... dont you know it maaaagiic.....


And don't forget those cryogenically treated race engine parts...

There's another subject... magnets....
I was the ultimate skeptic... I'm an aeronautical engineer, and a lifetime hotrodder (several decades).

My buddy is a rural mail carrier who drives a Subaru Legacy 4wd past 475 boxes a day. and keeps detailed records, day in, day out. Calculating his gas mileage by the week. (16 mpg)

The 7" long, square magnet about 1 1/2 " across, with the gas tube through the middle..... (they are super strong synthetic magnets like in RMI machines/ our friend actually manufactures these)

We tried one, installed it one week on, one week off, one week on, one week off. then back on. ..... (that's 3 offs and 3 ons) as consistent of a time/weather/distance that you could possibly imagine.

Consistently it improved mileage 3 1/2 %...... go figure.....

Asians have purchased gazillions of these things. Yep, he's rich, and.......

Yep, we got them on everything/and one gas sucker has 2 in series, just in case.
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I always wonder how those gray particles at the bottom of the can get by the oil filter. Aren't they the stuff that supposedly fills in the grooves?



That sludge in the bottom of the can is actually super small particles sliming together, and these particles are half the size of the smallest holes in the oil filters.

Ya, I didn't believe it either until the second or third engine made a distinct difference.

Hey, it is only $ 8 for the big can.
MachineshopTom is correct..... it is only time.

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tornado air directors.... is that what you call them things under any 82' 350 vette cross fire TBI ?
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