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Engine Stand Question

Just took the sb chevy out of the malibu to rebuild. I set the block up on the new harbor freight working engine stand and it seems the engine is taking a nose dive down really bad. My question is does anybody have that problem with the hf stands? If so what is a good stand to buy? I have a jack stand now holding the front of the engine up while its on this stand! I used grade 8 bolts and used all 4 mounts? Thanks for any help.

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I have to tell you, those cheapie engine stands scare the crap out of me! There are many different ones, I have one from HF that isn't too bad. Do you have a photo?

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I have a problem like that with a 750 lb. engine stand that I bought from Advanced Auto Parts. I have another stand that I bought from Auto Value that is a 1000 lb stand that doesn't seem to nose dive as much. Another thing to look at on your stand is can you line up the engine on the stand to get a cam bearing tool through the pivot pipe to install the cam bearings? Most of your cheaper stands you can't but I have seen a few higher end stands that will allow it. What is the weight capacity of the stand?
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I know what you mean. I have a stronger engine stand, that I got before Harbor Freight was popular, but I put a Ford 390 FE engine on my stand, and it flexed a little more that I was comfortable with, by the time the heads, and intake manifold were on the engine. I also held off putting the flexplate (or flywheel) on the engine, so I could get the engine as close to the stand as possible.
I ended up cutting a 4x4 piece of wood, and putting that under the front of the engine, except when I needed to roll the engine over to work on it. I used a hoist to pick up the front of the engine, and cut the 4x4 so it would just fit under the front, and hold some of the engine weight.

Some people have also added extra gussets to the post that holds the engine.
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the sag usually comes from the bell housing attachments that are usually made out of one inch tube on the cheaper stands.
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Unable to show picture(file type says too big). I see Grainger makes a really good one but its also 500 bucks!
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My 750 lb HF stand does the same thing with a BBC on it. Not so bad with a SBC. The 1000 lb HF stand is built better. My buddy has one. The bend in mine is in the pieces that bolt to the engine block. There are better stands out there, but like you said, they are pricey.
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My 750 lb HF stand does the same thing with a BBC on it. Not so bad with a SBC. The 1000 lb HF stand is built better. My buddy has one. The bend in mine is in the pieces that bolt to the engine block. There are better stands out there, but like you said, they are pricey.
Yup, I had my BBC on a 750lb NAPA Ultrapro stand, and it was scary.


NAPA has discontinued it since, and has a NLE (NAPA Lifting Equipment) version which looks like the same thing.
NLE 815-5060 Just over $150 CDN


However, they DO have OTC stands available in the BKP (Balkamp) line.


BKP 2010A
1000 lb

and


BKP 2012A
1250 lb

Both versions retail at just over $180.00 CDN
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I have the Carquest version of that Napa lifting stand, and it holds my fully dressed 460 BBF sort of ok. cost $79 IIRC. The stop bolt welds on the nut failed, but I drilled a hole and dropped a bolt in.... Would put a SBC on it any day. For BBF/ BBC or BBM, I would recomend somthing heavier.
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I have the Carquest version of that Napa lifting stand, and it holds my fully dressed 460 BBF sort of ok. cost $79 IIRC. The stop bolt welds on the nut failed, but I drilled a hole and dropped a bolt in.... Would put a SBC on it any day. For BBF/ BBC or BBM, I would recomend somthing heavier.
Yup, I hear you on the "sort of"

When I put the 454 on it as a long-block it was balanced OK, and could be rotated without too much effort. With the OE cast intake and exhaust manifolds bolted on during the painting process ... it got REALLY top-heavy!

I loosened the bolt to turn it upside down and it tried to get away on me. I was able to hold it long enough to have a buddy come and rescue me ... and let it roll over with the oil pan up. Rolling it back up the right way required an assist from the engine crane, and resulted in a bent handle. We also did as you did ... drilled a hole right thru the tube, so that the bolt went right thru and locked it into position.

When I was done with it, I offered it to a friend working on an SBF, where it worked just fine.
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I'd be using grade 5 bolts if I were you. Grade 5 will bend when stressed, but can be easily removed. Grade 8 will simply snap.
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Grade 8 bolts will bend, I have bolts at home to prove it.
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Engine Stand

I bought one from NAPA, its a 1000 lb. geared engine stand. The beauty of it is that you can turn the engine like a rotisserie with absolutely no effort. When I assembled it ,I noticed the front was 1 1/2 " lower than the rear. I had 2 aluminum blocks 1/12 ", drilled them, installed them, everything sits level now. I have only had a 351 Cleveland, fully assembled, all cast iron on it, but it weighs 560 lbs complete. I turned it with no effort. I wished they had had these back in the 70's, I would have been in hog heaven. I built a lot of motors back then, I still do today, but not as many. I love this engine stand.
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I'd be using grade 5 bolts if I were you. Grade 5 will bend when stressed, but can be easily removed. Grade 8 will simply snap.
That's what is know as an "old wives tale" or urban myth. I was sure of that too, but did my research (GE Engineering where I worked sorted my mind out)
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Don't quite get what you are saying, sorry, bare with me I'm a little slow.Could you clarify?
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