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movinon 02-04-2013 08:31 PM

engine swap
 
Hey hotrodders help me out! I have a Rambler American 440. It has a six/3spd.I would like to install a 302 Ford and a 4 speed.What kind of mods would i need to do to make it happen?Beef up front end? Would floor shift be in a good position? How about the rear? How much cash you think it would take to do this kind o project start to finish?.....thanks Don

455olds 02-04-2013 10:05 PM

I think you have a lot of fabricating to do. No way the stock rear will take any kind of serious power but you are using a F**d engine so you should be ok there. (Kidding!) Seriously, swap rear ends and strengthen the frame or subframe, modify floorpan probably for transmission room. Rewire the whole car for safety. As far as cost, unless you can do all this safely yourself it will be $$$$. I also think you would need to rebuild the stock front suspension or replace all of it. You need to upgrade brakes when you add more power and weight in any car in my opinion. A fast car that won't stop is scary. Good luck!

JeffB 02-05-2013 12:48 AM

I worked for Rambler 1967-68 and the Rambler Rogue with the 343 V-8 and T-10 4 spd option actually used a Ford 9" rear.Best rear for your swap would be a 1957-59 Ford 9" or an 8" from an early Mustang or Maverick with a V8.In the 60's and 70's Ramblers used a mix of GM and Ford bits and pieces.Here is an example:http://www.adclassix.com/a4/67amcramblerrogue.html

MARTINSR 02-05-2013 09:27 AM

What year are you working with? I honestly don't see a need in doing any strengthening of the body or frame or anything like that. The later 440's had a V8 and unless you are going to run some serious sticky tires and dragging it I don't see a need to make a big deal out of the body strength.

Brian

S10xGN 02-05-2013 10:20 AM

Yup, post the year. Anything 64+ should be pretty easy, earlier Americans...NOT! Navigate over to theamcforum, there's lots of love there for the 64+ Americans (but little for the early ones)...

Russ

cobalt327 02-05-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by movinon (Post 1642729)
Hey hotrodders help me out! I have a Rambler American 440. It has a six/3spd.I would like to install a 302 Ford and a 4 speed.What kind of mods would i need to do to make it happen?Beef up front end? Would floor shift be in a good position? How about the rear? How much cash you think it would take to do this kind o project start to finish?.....thanks Don

There are a couple guys here (some who have already posted) who love Ramblers and know a lot about them, so keep checking back.

You should consider using an AMC engine/transmission IMHO. Car Craft did a series of articles on a '67 American, they used all AMC parts- or that was the idea.

AMC engine info

movinon 02-05-2013 07:49 PM

The Ramy is a 1965 model. Back in the day i owned one of these cars and my buds couldnt wait to pull the 6 and replace with a 283 Chevy. I wrecked it befor it could happen.I have a tight budget so all info is appreciated.The car is for sale local for 6,000. thanks to all....Don

cobalt327 02-05-2013 08:09 PM

$6K sounds kinda... high...

farna 03-13-2013 01:13 PM

If it's in great condition $6K is good. That means it probably has a good six in it now though. you might consider hotrodding the six. A good cam and an Offenhauser DP intake with a 390-450 cfm 4V moves the 232 six up into small V-8 power territory. I'd go with an Isky cam.


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