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Old 12-10-2009, 04:38 PM
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engine tranny installation at once

Maybe its just me, but it seems like today engine and tranny always get pulled or put in seperately, but I seem to remember when just the opposite was more common place. I cant speak for everybody everywhere but around here the two almost always got seperated or reassembled out of the car. Now you mention that around here and your looked at like you just farted. When I was a kid it was both out or in at all cost,hood off,grill out,no matter it was as a unit every time. To my thinking its easier to reassemble on the bench then drop in. If a fellas got the room any reason why not? Something that caused folk to change that I'm blind to?

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The switch to front wheel drive(biggest reason IMO), along with all the electronic stuff that has to be disconnected, is what I beleive has led to just pulling one or the other at a time. Plus engine bays are smaller, less room to manuever, with ever more crap packed into them around the engine.

Pull both in a front driver and you usually have no way to move the car easily.
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The switch to front wheel drive(biggest reason IMO), along with all the electronic stuff that has to be disconnected, is what I beleive has led to just pulling one or the other at a time.
I think just the opposite. Virtually every car made in the last ten years (including RWD cars) has the engine, trans, and front suspension all go in from the bottom as a unit on the assembly line. It's actually easier than you think to drop the whole cradle, since all the electrical and fluid connections are designed for this. In many cases, there's no way to get the drivetrain out from the top anyway.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the at home do-it-yourselfer. If you don't have a lift, removing it all can be a real pain. Things are better in the last ten years, but 25 years ago when FWD first arrived, it was different.
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Maybe its just me, but it seems like today engine and tranny always get pulled or put in seperately, but I seem to remember when just the opposite was more common place.
I haven't noticed a swing away from pulling both, but I will be just as likely to pull both even if I'm just doing the engine. It depends on the exact car, but sometimes getting the tranny bolts out a/4 foot extension just isn't what I feel like doing that day. Just depends.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the at home do-it-yourselfer. If you don't have a lift, removing it all can be a real pain. Things are better in the last ten years, but 25 years ago when FWD first arrived, it was different.
I can't speak to domestic cars, but I've pulled the engine and trans in several FWD Hondas and Toyotas from that vintage. In those cases you MUST pull the two together from the top since there isn't enough room between the strut towers to separate the engine from the trans.
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In rear wheel drive cars it is a determination of what is easier. Do I completely disassemble the grill and all accessories so I can pull the engine and trans as one unit or not?

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In rear wheel drive cars it is a determination of what is easier. Do I completely disassemble the grill and all accessories so I can pull the engine and trans as one unit or not?

Vince
I've been lucky- not had to do the grill deal.

Actually, w/my old hoist's chain 'choked up' as close to the boom as it will go, the engine and tranny will come out of both a 2nd. gen F-body, a mid-80's Elky and same years Monte, same year Malibu w/o even removing the hood! I do remove the carb so the engine's chain can be tight across the manifold, but that's the only concession to doing it that way. With trucks it goes w/o saying.
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