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Old 10-14-2008, 06:37 PM
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English Wheel Build

I just finished building an english wheel. One of the members here thought it would be good to post it in the tools forum,so here goes.

I chose the design used by Imperial Wheeling Machines. I tried one out at one of the members of Metalmeet.com a few weeks ago and made my first panel for my 41 Chrysler project. His machine was very firm and rigid. It is a 16" throat but I opted to go with a 23" throat.

The frame is 5"x3" tubing with a 3/16" wall thickness.Its all TIG welded together.I didn't chamfer the joints prior to welding, instead I used 1/8" thick steel plates between the joints and welded all 3 pcs together in one pass.The plates are 2-3/4" wide,thus recessing them in 1/8" creating a chamfer.

The support for the lower anvil is the same tube with a piece cut out to achieve the taper and welded together.
Its capped with a 1/2" thick plate with a threaded center hole to bolt on the anvil yoke and 4 more threaded holes for adjusting bolts to line up the anvil to the upper wheel.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:58 PM
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These pics are of the adjuster tube and the quill.

The tube is 4" square with a 3/8" thick wall

The quill is 2" square cold rolled solid bar.It has a thread bolt hole at the bottom and 2 holes for index pins. There are 3 pcs of 1/4"x2" cold rolled plate that create a bridge for the nut on the bottom of the adjuster rod. The rod is 1"-14 tpi. The nut and rod is drilled for a split pin. I cut a nut in half to use as jam nuts for the top. There are 2 thrust washers to help it spin easy.

The top plate is 4x4x3/8 with a nut welded to the center.I drilled holes and bolted it to the tube with 1/4-20 bolts.

The plate for the upper wheel yoke is 4x4x3/8" with 2 indexing pins.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:06 PM
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Made up the legs and all the plates to bolt them on.
Welded 3" castors to the legs.They are all swivel so I welded up the front so it can't swivel.

I welded a 3"x9-3/8"x1/2 plate to bolt the adjuster tube on to.

I drilled and tapped 4 holes on each side and 2 holes on the front and rear of the tube for adjusting set screws.

I also added 5 tapped holes to bolt the adjuster tube to the frame.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:51 AM
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The top wheel is 2"x8". I got the wheels from Hoosier Pattern.

The side plates of the wheel holder are 4" wide x 3/8" thick cold rolled bar stock.

All those beauty "decorative" holes you see are there because I cropped off the angled cut at the wrong end of one and had to drill a new hole at the other end and......


The extra holes came in handy for welding though. I used a pce of 1/2" threaded rod and nuts to keep it spaced apart as I welded it up.
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The anvil holder is made up of 3"x3"x1/4" cold rolled bar stock.
There is a 1/2" hole for the axle.

The anvils are 2" wide x 3" diameter.I got 5 different radius's along with a flat one. These all came in a set with the top wheel. I ordered the hardened set as I can't stand dinged up tooling.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:03 AM
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A shot of paint to keep the rust at bay.Not really...mostly just to look good.....
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Looks awesome, thanks for posting this!

Do you have a way to lock this in place to keep it from rolling around while you're using it?
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This is a great tutorial. There's even more info and pics in Pugsy's journal. I can imagine quite a few of our members using these plans to build their own machines.
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Looks awesome, thanks for posting this!

Do you have a way to lock this in place to keep it from rolling around while you're using it?
Thanks.

I have been using it and with the front wheel fixed it doesn't move.

I will be putting locks on the castors.Too busy checking it out first.

Also, if the top wheel is too tight it kind of bumps up telling me to slack off a bit.

The rear legs should have been spaced out a bit more.
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This is a great tutorial. There's even more info and pics in Pugsy's journal. I can imagine quite a few of our members using these plans to build their own machines.
Any more info needed is available on request. Dimensions...whatever. I can also pop off the top of the adjuster to show the slides inside.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:25 PM
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I am dang near speechless.

What art gallery is that going to be exhibited in?

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Any more info needed is available on request. Dimensions...whatever. I can also pop off the top of the adjuster to show the slides inside.
I'd really like to see those slides in place, if it's not too much trouble. (They might be adaptable to other uses, too!)

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Thanks Grouch.

I'll pull off the top tomorrow for pics. I forgot to take some before I assembled it. They will be good to add to this thread in case anyone is interested in building a wheel.

The slides are nothing special. Just 1/4" thick bar that the set screws push on. Between these bars and the quill are pieces of poly cutting board that I got from work.
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A couple of pics of the bars and polyethelene sliders.
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Thanks for the extra pictures!

Those sliders are polyethylene? Do the bolts in the sides allow for taking up slack as the plastic wears or is wear not an issue? (I've never used an English wheel, only seen demonstrations).
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Thanks for the extra pictures!

Those sliders are polyethylene? Do the bolts in the sides allow for taking up slack as the plastic wears or is wear not an issue? (I've never used an English wheel, only seen demonstrations).
They're high density polyethylene. Its commonly referred to as sani cutting board in the restaurant equipment business.
I used a piece of scrap to make them.

Wear should not be an issue as those set screws you see are for adjustment.

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