Epoxy primer. Is it needed?? - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Body - Exterior
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 12:53 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cullman, AL
Posts: 2
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Epoxy primer. Is it needed??

I have blasted the paint from my project. No rust. Do i need to use an Epoxy primer or can I just go straight to 2k PRIMER. I am not driving the vehicle. It will be painted before it leaves the shop. All help is appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 01:07 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Hood
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: pennsylvania
Posts: 233
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Absolutly, wouldn't go without it. The 2k isn't meant for bare metal.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Member
 
Last wiki edit: Ford axle ratio codes
Last journal entry: Rear Suspension
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Prattsville
Posts: 6,029
Wiki Edits: 31

Thanks: 1
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
you need some form of a Direct to metal primer.. most use DTM epoxies, but there are some who use DTM Etch primers.. but you need somthing listed for use direct to metal bottom line
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 03:32 PM
TucsonJay's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Posts: 663
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts
I've used 2K directly on metal for almost 20 years, with no problem. I know that today many companies offer specific "direct-to-metal" 2K primers. Just google for them.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 06:18 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: spokane,wa.
Posts: 1,182
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 5
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
I'm a cheap old man and the best bang for my buck is SPI epoxy.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 06:31 PM
restowman's Avatar
TyRFrYR
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: niles MI.
Age: 44
Posts: 36
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You can buy etch prime in a spray can (cheap). I also have used 2k right over bare metal many times and I know there were no problems (a few of my good friends cars). Although in the shop when the paint is guaranteed for life I always use it. Especially on large areas.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 06:37 PM
OneMoreTime's Avatar
Hotrodders.com moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Health and safety in the shop or garage
Last journal entry: Yard Dog pic
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Washington State
Age: 68
Posts: 6,758
Wiki Edits: 3

Thanks: 7
Thanked 54 Times in 52 Posts
I always use the epoxy specially if it is a long term project..cheap insurance against do overs..but hey you can do anything that you want...

Sam
__________________
I have tried most all of it and now do what is known to work..
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2010, 08:43 PM
roger1's Avatar
©®™
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Angelo,TX
Age: 57
Posts: 1,010
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 11
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C 1964
I have blasted the paint from my project. No rust. Do i need to use an Epoxy primer or can I just go straight to 2k PRIMER. I am not driving the vehicle. It will be painted before it leaves the shop. All help is appreciated.
Do you need to? No. You don't .
Do you want to do your project using today's best technology? If the answer to that is yes then the answer to your question is yes, use epoxy primer first.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2010, 04:41 AM
deadbodyman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: Stripping paint Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: augusta,ga.
Age: 52
Posts: 4,751
Wiki Edits: 11

Thanks: 6
Thanked 84 Times in 74 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Fool
I'm a cheap old man and the best bang for my buck is SPI epoxy.
Same here ...Not only does it stick very well to metal but it can be sanded also, eliminating the need for any other primers
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2010, 06:42 AM
Member
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lakeland FL
Age: 64
Posts: 4,110
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
you live in AL=lots of rain and every morning heavy dew moisture collecting inside and outside of the car ...

epoxy is a 99.99+ moisture and air barrier to prevent rust!!!

today's 2K urathane top coats are pretty darn good moisture and air barriers...

so how do you plan to use the car when done needs to be known to give a response
trailer queen?
in the mud?

my $.02:
just about all the epoxies brands technical data sheets call for a cured film thickness of only 1.5 to 2.0 mils...
(a poly lawn leaf bag is usually 1.25 mils thick,,,kitchen trash liner bag is usually 1.0 mil thick for reference example,,,info is on the box)...
So,,,do contact your epoxy brand tech dept first to confirm you can apply alot more to be able to do some surface sanding...
(more epoxy applied affects/changes the catalytic reaction heat generated and how it gases off to determine the final cured physical properties)

if nothing else do some testing on some scrap first,,,some epoxies are a total beeetch to sand when cured....
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2010, 08:00 AM
302 Z28's Avatar  
Last photo:
Join Date: May 2003
Location: North Texas
Posts: 10,592
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by red65mustang

if nothing else do some testing on some scrap first,,,some epoxies are a total beeetch to sand when cured....
I second that, and I would also add that not all epoxy primers are created equal........read PPG .

Vince
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-13-2010, 09:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cullman, AL
Posts: 2
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the info. I will absolutly use Epoxy first.
Reply With Quote

Recent Body - Exterior posts with photos


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
When can I paint over epoxy primer? Brian1234 Body - Exterior 6 09-01-2009 06:57 PM
epoxy primer over body work Tonythefish Body - Exterior 3 08-30-2009 06:53 AM
SPI Epoxy primer question xpsyclonex2002 Body - Exterior 4 08-21-2009 12:12 AM
need photos of epoxy primer for wiki article Jon Body - Exterior 2 08-01-2007 06:10 PM
need pics for wiki articles: hemi engines, epoxy primer, etc. Jon Hotrodders' Lounge 3 08-01-2007 01:53 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.