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feel free to start a thread on that boost ref carb mod
I watched someone do this in 30min last week....and it flat out works....pretty cool.
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Climate minor changes does effect blower motors more the N/A/.

This is not true.. Do not confusel a 11sec supercharged street blower car with a promod or A/FC car where track conditions cause the variance in ET.

The ET class you will be running will not support running a race gas motor. You will get reall tired and broke real fast. The simple supercharged SBC car will be more consisitant/much easier to set the performance level
and LOT cheaper to operate. The 11's don't pay much to win.

The only classes that will pay enough to win will be ones you ahve to qualify for (quick 16 field etc).
The supercharged car allows you to do this. easily and for less.

Your plan will end up $30K in a 12sec malibu that is not completive. and no fun.
Powerglide big mistake.. You want a th350 or th400 that auto shifts all by it self. race in D.
Consistantcy is what wins.
This is a 12sec car not a supergas car.
The win money is $300 and pays back to four places without being involved in the points.Being in the top four wouldn't be a bad result for the points by the end of the yr.

Sure 15k to 20k is likely.Just want to bring some professionalization to the class.

The glide part of it is exactly for the sole purpose of consistency.Few shifts is more consistent.Proof of that is in the super classes.

I've spent the better part of my life cost benefiting race cars to turn racing into a profitable business.It's from that I am retiring from to just have some fun doing laps.Yet I hear ya about costs.It is very easy to allow the hot rod in me get away from me.It is one reason why I am restricting this build to cast iron heads either OEM or aftermarket.Also on the hunt for a car that is partially built at a good price.
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The glide part of it is exactly for the sole purpose of consistency.Few shifts is more consistent.Proof of that is in the super classes.


You don't have a super car or the engine.. A super gas car is 2300lbs with a 500++CID engine and 700hp.

This poorly conceived 11sec 12sec bracket car will be a $30K boring snail with a glide and a non winner . You have no clue. Pretty much consistent with the rest of your posts thou. So no surprise there.

None of this makes any sense in any terms of practicality or performance or competitive benefits. You are on some good smoke there.
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lots of 11 second powerglide cars.mostly small small blocks or class cars. the power glide cars hook,though the malibu hooks well anyways
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The glide part of it is exactly for the sole purpose of consistency.Few shifts is more consistent.Proof of that is in the super classes.


You don't have a super car or the engine.. A super gas car is 2300lbs with a 500++CID engine and 700hp.

This poorly conceived 11sec 12sec bracket car will be a $30K boring snail with a glide and a non winner . You have no clue. Pretty much consistent with the rest of your posts thou. So no surprise there.

None of this makes any sense in any terms of practicality or performance or competitive benefits. You are on some good smoke there.
Just going to remind you that once done,it's not beyond me to go to Cayuga.

So we disagree.

Remind you in posts past I spoke to you about "the lesson" I was going to give you.............
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lots of 11 second powerglide cars.mostly small small blocks or class cars. the power glide cars hook,though the malibu hooks well anyways
Yep Vinnie.I agree.So the glide along with a Malibu should be a compounding factor.Lighter in wt and faster because of less reciprocating wt.
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car is too heavy for a glide. It will leave like a snail.

ya right we'll see who will school who. So far you have no chance.


Go ahead spend $15-$20K and tell me when you are ready. I'll install my 305 in the car to really rub your nose in it.

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Well been thinking about this and I think the first build will end up being a 468 which would allow me to go to a 496 if I feel I need it.Still a 12+ SCR and solid roller with steel aftermarket 320 heads.

ET genie'ed maybe..............

BTW-have seen a number of builds under $4,000 for the short blocks.
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Rough estimate of a cam to run from 3,000 to 7,000.Of course a bottom end to support it.Smaller inch engine needs compression and to spin it higher is the thought behind it.

Well to refine this abit,the potential of 7,000,but to save numbers there.

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Who are you trying to impress? I build simple 468's using ported 781 oval ports that make well over 700hp.

You sure know how to waste money. That does not impress anybody.
All this 11sec bracket car needs is a 500 HP engine. (less if you lighten the car)
You're going to look real silly getting smoked by a $200 street supercharged 305. LOL.

I have more into the engine stand than the engine so far.....
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Well I am going to respect you with a answer.I have for yrs been apart of a partnership that has always build cars that run well under the class number.And do so not to put a ton of stress on the engines we built.It is that to our credit we have a national win,a number of regional wins,and points wins.I will tell you there isn't a national winner found anywhere that isn't saving numbers in his package.Not one.So to try to be a internet hero has absolutely nothing to do with this build.

The other part of this is to be very sure not only to cover a ET,but have a package to cover the back haft of mph in a run.If I am to end up being the chase car,it is important,and yet still save numbers doing it easily.The other part is if I am not successful to slow the car down,I have laid the foundation for a upgrade to the next class ET having to change alittle,but not much.

When I say save numbers,I am saying that so not to do stupid unsafe smoking front tires in the lights.Never would put myself or any competitor in that kind of risk situation.

Also it allows me to run quick classes.

I think it puts tons on me as the driver.First at the tree,at how I run the laps,first to cross the stripe and run my dial.

That to me is having fun.No more worries about sponsors,the business aspect I have been having for a very long time.A retirement ride.
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car is too heavy for a glide. It will leave like a snail.
tons of 3200-3300 lb cars running glides, and running with mighty fast 60 foot times
don't know where you where going with that comment..

as far as your 305, you'd be better/faster with a series III3800 s/c stock with a pulley change
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tons of 3200-3300 lb cars running glides, and running with mighty fast 60 foot times
don't know where you where going with that comment..

as far as your 305, you'd be better/faster with a series III3800 s/c stock with a pulley change

Only of you gear the crap out of it.

this requires excessive rpm thru the traps to get enough starting line gear ratio.
The only reason sone cars use it is rules ( superstock)
The th350 3 speed always performs better in these cars too.

99.9% of cars that swap to a 3 speed from a glide run faster with the 3 speed.
More reliable longer engine life too. Remember this is a bracket car.
The glide is a bad choice on this car.

A 2 speed trans works well in a very light weight car with a very big CID engine
Like a supergas car 2300lbs 500+CID big block. When you copy what yousee on the pro classes and try to apply it to
a 11-12sec car that is a lot heavier and has a lot less engine power you end up with a snail.

These cars always run better with a 3 speed th350 trans.
Required combined first gear ratio.... to start..

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as far as your 305, you'd be better/faster with a series III3800 s/c stock with a pulley change

A bad choice for the engine and power level desired. requires intercooling when driven at high rotor speed
and not compatable with a carb.

I know what blower to use on the S/C 305 combo , thanks. It will make well over 500hp on pump gas in a safe reliable state of tune. (I will also be using it on 350's) (550+HP)
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Only of you gear the crap out of it.

this requires excessive rpm thru the traps to get enough starting line gear ratio.
The only reason sone cars use it is rules ( superstock)
The th350 3 speed always performs better in these cars too.

99.9% of cars that swap to a 3 speed from a glide run faster with the 3 speed.
More reliable longer engine life too. Remember this is a bracket car.
The glide is a bad choice on this car.

A 2 speed trans works well in a very light weight car with a very big CID engine
Like a supergas car 2300lbs 500+CID big block. When you copy what yousee on the pro classes and try to apply it to
a 11-12sec car that is a lot heavier and has a lot less engine power you end up with a snail.

These cars always run better with a 3 speed th350 trans.
Required combined first gear ratio.... to start..
This isn't a winnable discussion.All the wins I posted was with a SBC/glide.
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