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Old 12-30-2005, 07:31 PM
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Evercoat lite weight vs. Rage

I am taking everyones advice and skipping on the bondo for evercoat products but they have several lines. I would like to know what the benefits of each are. The lite weight is cheaper so if everything else is similar I will go that route. The car won't be show quality but will do duty on cruise nights and I'm hoping to get it into some vw mags.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:49 PM
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One is as good as the other.. what makes a difference is getting used to one. Then you'll know how it behaves and be able to refine your own style.
Here's a quick filler thread that might help
http://www.a2zautoforums.com/showthread.php?t=936




Don't look at prices ... , you already got the discounts when you decided to do it yourself.
Now get the best screw the rest

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Great. Awesome writeup. I will get the liteweight. Now anyone know of any stores that carry this product so I don't have to pay $25 in shipping?
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Thaks to BondoKing for these links...
http://www.a2zautoforums.com/showpos...86&postcount=2
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I personally think that Evercoat's Z-Grip sticks better than their Lite Weight and it isn't that much more money. It's what I use for bigger jobs.
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I just used some light weight on a set of Harley tanks and fenders (after looking at the primer I might not be done yet, funny how those little things you dont see stick out like a sore thumb once the primer is on) anyway Its the only thing my jobber had and I didnt want to have to wait for mail. I find it very user firendly, spreads nice and smooth, one thing, you dont need much of the hardner. I made a ribbon about 6 inches long 1 inch wide and abouit 1 inch thick and laid down about a two inch line of hardner and 15 minutes later it had pretty much kicked. Al
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Heavy Duty, Brother

There is also a heavyweight body filler.
When and why would you use this type of filler?
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I bought the lite weight from crashsupply.com. Only charged me $5 for shipping for two gallons.
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You must have a big job to need 2 gallons of body filler. I don't use that much in a year, working as a body tech. I can't believe that you couldn't buy it locally, but then you have not posted your location, so no one could recommend a place to buy it.

you might want to check in your area for a body shop supply house. Although you can make purchases on-line, and save some money, there are times it isn't feasable.

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They sell the light weight, Bondo brand filler at WalMart.
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It is a big job and I am a novice. See below.


I'm a little farther along now but I don't have any updated pics. I'm located in Abilene, TX. I got 2 gallons + shipping for $23. I think this is as cheap as I could get it and I've heard it is better than bondo.
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Scott, keep us updated on the project. It'll be worth all the hard work when done. Evercoat's Rage, Rage Gold, and Rage extreme sand a heck of a lot easier than the lightweight you're using. They dry much nicer without as much of a tacky surface. Rage Extreme is all I use now, spreads really nice and sands the best, no need for any glaze coats most of the time. My cost on Rage extreme is $21 per gallon and the difference pricewise between it and the cheap stuff is easily made up in less sandpaper used and saved time. Just my 2 cents, Bob
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Wish I would have heard that advice yesterday. Oh well, I will make it work.
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This is how it goes where I work, we can buy any products we want, so price isn't an issue (I don't even know how much it sells for). There are seven bodymen in the shop and over the four years I have worked there we have tried a number of different Evercoat fillers, and polyester putties. We have gravitated to Evercoat RAGE Gold and Metal Glaze/Glaze coat (same stuff, different color).

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Brian, try the Rage Extreme, it's different that the regular Rage and Rage Gold. It can be spread thinner and smoother and much less porus. And I'm sure since your metalworking has been improving your amount of fill needed has probably decreased
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