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Everything was going great until.............

I sprayed the sew foam with the adhesive. Once I placed the vinyl back onto the foam, the vinyl appears to be dissolving! I just picked the vinyl up today. The store, named "JOANN'S" "claims" the vinyl is automotive/marine grade. The adhesive is headliner/carpet that I picked up at Pep Boys. It said it's good for foam and vinyl. So the question is - is everything I purchased garbage, not the correct stuff or both. I'm in a rush right now but will post pictures later. The vinyl started dissolving right before my eyes!

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Isn't there a backing on the vinyl you bought? There is no reason that the vinyl should melt unless the glue you are using is the wrong type. Vinyl is made of poly vinyl chloride, so if the glue you used is a solvent for the PVC, it will destroy it. If you're going to use aerosols, then buy good quality aerosols from a place that sells upholstery supplies. There are a bunch of such web sites on the internet, like this one: CLICK HERE
No professional upholsterer uses aerosols except for tiny little jobs. If you really want to do things and have them turn out correctly, I strongly urge you to get an air compressor and some spraying equipment and use high quality bulk spray grade adhesives like DAP and 3-M. A gallon of contact adhesive is under $30, a spray gun can be had for under $20, and if you don't want to buy an air compressor, rent one or borrow one. Check out the wiki article on contact adhesive: CLICK HERE
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Isn't there a backing on the vinyl you bought? There is no reason that the vinyl should melt unless the glue you are using is the wrong type. Vinyl is made of poly vinyl chloride, so if the glue you used is a solvent for the PVC, it will destroy it. If you're going to use aerosols, then buy good quality aerosols from a place that sells upholstery supplies. There are a bunch of such web sites on the internet, like this one: CLICK HERE
No professional upholsterer uses aerosols except for tiny little jobs. If you really want to do things and have them turn out correctly, I strongly urge you to get an air compressor and some spraying equipment and use high quality bulk spray grade adhesives like DAP and 3-M. A gallon of contact adhesive is under $30, a spray gun can be had for under $20, and if you don't want to buy an air compressor, rent one or borrow one. Check out the wiki article on contact adhesive: CLICK HERE
Dan when you glue your patterns to sew foam you are using pot glue (DAP OR 3M) ?

In school we where taught to use a temp tack and that pot glue was a waste and such a permeate glue was not required for this ?
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That is absolutely correct, it is not important to use a glue with a lot of holding power. When I glue fabric to sew foam, I use a bulk foam to foam spray glue that is less permanent than top and trim contact adhesive.
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That is absolutely correct, it is not important to use a glue with a lot of holding power. When I glue fabric to sew foam, I use a bulk foam to foam spray glue that is less permanent than top and trim contact adhesive.
Interesting. Dan I have always used the same adhesive for gluing vinyl tops for everything, including fabric to seat foam. Is it that the top glue holds too good and doesn't let the fabric relax over time and can cause wrinkles?

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That's what I think, but I'm sure others use top and trim contact adhesive for everything. Another reason I use the foam to foam glue is that it has way less fumes than contact adhesive.
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