[Centerline]

Originally Posted by willys36@aol.com

That white T/A brings back memories. We had an 81 Turbo T/A, black w/ the T-tops, bird decal, gold pin-striping, engine turned dash, full gages, and gold Turbo wheels, the works. It was a marvelous car. Not a lot of power, even with the turbo, weighed SEVERAL TONS, those huge doors must have weighed a couple hundred pounds each, but it sure was a fun car to drive and NOTHING in history looked or looks cooler. Had three little kids and the bearings in the turbo were going out so we traded it in. Really hated giving it up.

Now I know who you really are. Your real name is Burt and you married Sally. Do you still have the custom painted 18 wheeler?

[willys36@aol.com]

10-4 good buddy! com'on . . . .

[NDtruck]

This threads a little old, but pesonally, I think if you want to really wow your teacher, do a little research and include some information on the Australian 6 cylinder hemi's.

Lot of people don't know such things existed.

[willys36@aol.com]

Here are a few selected hemi valve covers. There are many other versions out there.

This is the big mama, very rare came only on 300s. ebaY starting price was $495/ set. Exact same cover without the dimples is the most common hemi cover available and they go for $50 - $100/set.


These are next on the desirable list for Chryslers. Industrial and Marine (not shown) covers have the dimples and are 'performance' covers. These go fro $80 - $150 per set.


Here are a couple or RedRam covers, one w/ the name and one w/o the name but with dimples. Both go for $100 - $150/set.


Rarest of all non-Chrysler covers are the Desoto covers. These go for $150 - $250/set.

[willys36@aol.com]

Wow! Have any of you ever run across this site? EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about the early hemi.

[Magnus_Jager]

Yeah I've seen panic's site, some very nice info. I found it when I was floating around www.thehemi.com.

[Barz51]

Those are the exact valve covers I have. I'm having a heck of a time finding the wire loom/ spark plug covers. I've been searching ebay but every time I find some they are going with the valve covers, for more $$ than I want to spend.

[bentwings]

Want to know something sad?? I tossed probably a dozen sets of those dimpled valve covers in the trash back in the old top fuel/gas days. They looked like crap when they were chromed ...back then. We kept a few sets of adjustable rocker arms. You could buy better lighter ones so these were just for emergency. We used to keep the block, heads, crank, and oil pumps (56) and a few cams and a couple plain valve covers that we had chrome plated.. The rest went to the junk yard. We used to be able to get a whole car for $50 tops. We'd get a couple and rip them apart on a week end. Sometimes we got $10 for the remains. 300's were better. It was rumored they had high nickle blocks. Never saw any difference. Imperials sometimes had the dimples as did the truck and marine blocks. We just went shopping and took every thing we could find. If it had 57 or 58 in the serial number it was a 392.
don't you just hate us old guys. haha

[willys36@aol.com]

Originally Posted by bentwings

Want to know something sad?? I tossed probably a dozen sets of those dimpled valve covers in the trash back in the old top fuel/gas days. They looked like crap when they were chromed ...back then. We kept a few sets of adjustable rocker arms. You could buy better lighter ones so these were just for emergency. We used to keep the block, heads, crank, and oil pumps (56) and a few cams and a couple plain valve covers that we had chrome plated.. The rest went to the junk yard. We used to be able to get a whole car for $50 tops. We'd get a couple and rip them apart on a week end. Sometimes we got $10 for the remains. 300's were better. It was rumored they had high nickle blocks. Never saw any difference. Imperials sometimes had the dimples as did the truck and marine blocks. We just went shopping and took every thing we could find. If it had 57 or 58 in the serial number it was a 392.
don't you just hate us old guys. haha

Well . . . Did I ever tell you about the sheet metal parts I threw out from my Willys? How many thousand primo Willys front sheet metal clips got tossed in the crusher in favor of a fiberglas clip?


Also Silentlion_69, what was your grade on your Hemi essay?

[bentwings]

Willys,
Normally I'd be all over ya for trashing original tin on these rare cars, but the Willys at least the 40-41 were probably the sorriest excuse of a car ever made. Replacing a fender was more like installing a custom made piece with original tin. For the most part getting rid of the tin was the best thing that happened to them. Fortunately a few good rodders patched the stuff up and made a few good cars for plugs for todays plastic fantastics. My A&C 41 is nearly perfect right from the box. No flash No mold lines, nothing. It is smooth and ripple free. I put a few nicks and scratches in the body in the garage but that's it. Even the hood to fender and center section fit is not too bad.
Some one told me that the originals didn't last 5 years before they rusted out plus there was poor support for the body so it broke up from the frame twisting and vibrating. There are very very few tin cars left that were not racers at one time. I saw one last year that went for better than 25k unrestored. I bet it would take another 25k just to restore what was left of the body.

So in the end pal, you did all us Willys owners a great favor. haha

[amx82]

Originally Posted by 302/Z28

A lot of people think Chrysler invented the hemi head, when in actuality it was the aircraft industry.

Vince

Actually ford designed the first hemi head ,but like all thing's ford it died the same year it was a 427ci, not to be mistaken for the 427 cobra jet,did i mention that chevy didint even have the cod's to give it a try LOL LOL ,and you really can't call an engine thats round and's kinda like a rotary engine a hemi

[bentwings]

Just because the cylinders aren't in a row doesn't mean they aren't hemi's. It just a circular row. besides those 2 round rows of nine hemis put a lot of red roundels in the Pacific ocean back a few years ago.

there is nothing like a big round bunch of "hemis" haha

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by amx82

Actually ford designed the first hemi head ......

You are so far off...... As has been said earlier European designers were building hemi head internal combustion racing engines as early as 1912, a full year before Henry established the first assembly line.

Next time do yourself a favor and do a little research..... It just might save you from showing a distinct lack of knowledge on whatever subject is being discussed.

[amx82]

Thank's for correcting me on that info ,alway's learnin. that was very interesting any sight's that i could catch to learn more?

[techinspector1]

Originally Posted by Centerline

You are so far off...... As has been said earlier European designers were building hemi head internal combustion racing engines as early as 1912, a full year before Henry established the first assembly line.

Next time do yourself a favor and do a little research..... It just might save you from showing a distinct lack of knowledge on whatever subject is being discussed.

Yep, I've seen a photo of a 1912 Peugeot hemi.
Silent, I don't know if you ever found the answers as to what makes the hemi such a superior design, but two of the characteristics I remember are...
1. Flame Propogation: with the centrally located spark plug, the flame front has an better chance of travelling to all the areas of the combustion chamber in the available time, giving a more complete burn to the mixture as opposed to a quench design.
2. Surface to volume ratio: it is beneficial to present as little surface area as possible to the burn to prevent as little heat transfer to the cooling system as possible. The hemi design offers a smaller ratio over a quench design.