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fabric for my interior

im from the mart texas right outside of waco texas. Restoring my 83 chevy malibu 4 door. I know this is a hotrod page and i also have a 67 chevy swb truck that can run with the wind. I found a fabric place in waco and bought some dark blue vinyle for 6 dollars a yard. i only bought a yard to test the material out. I want to recover the top half of my door panels on my 83 malibu. i need to know what size foam i need for the door panels. I want to do this myself and save money. Also i repainting the plastic parts and want to know is the bulldog adhesive primer the best to use before using plastic paint. I really concern bout my new dash i got with no cracks perfect shape. i dont want the paint to chip off of it.

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As far as foam for the top of the door panels go, what is there now? You generally have to stay with what was originally there unless you're replacing the whole panel. My advise to you is to find some better vinyl to use. What you have is probably not UV resistant, abrasion resistant, or very pliable, and may be hard to work with and not last as long as you'd like.

As far as painting plastic and vinyl, SEM products are hard to beat. Check them out here: http://www.sem.ws/
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For a nice look on the top of a door panel, you can do a couple things. For firm feel but still padded, I use 1/4" volara foam. It's the landau top stuff. Works nicely because it can be beveled up at the top to allow the felt scraper to reattach, and can be shaved to fit. Takes glue well, too. Most of the stock door tops from the 70s and 80s used crappy dacron pads. Cheesy and got too loose over time.

For just a quickie covering that still does look good and will last, pick up some headliner foam (try to get the 3/16 foam backing instead of the 1/8" which is what everyone is going to now). Glue it down and then cover with the vinyl. It's a nice route to go.

As for plastic, I use SEM for most things. But, honestly, I do like the Bulldog for prep on hard plastic surfaces (SEM definitely for vinyl prep and leather prep). First and foremost you have to make sure the plastic pieces aren't dried out and flaking. If they are, nothing will work on them. If they are solid, degrease it thoroughly, then I do two or three thin coats of bulldog, and let it tack. Then use either a good interior dye, or try the Krylon Fusion paint for plastic.
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at the top of the door panel is 4 or 5 staples that hold the vinyle and rubber piece to the panel. what kind of staple gun do i need to find to replace the staples when i take them off to put new vinyle on there.
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I'm guessing you mean the staples that are holding on the rubber inner scraper. Those aren't typical staples that go on with a staple gun.

When I'm doing a true restoration and have to put the staples back, I use piano wire (also used for cutting out window glue). Cut a chunk a couple inches long, put them in the jaws of a pair of needle nose pliers (I size mine with the first serated strip for size). Bend down both ends. Then you feed them back through the original holes and bend them over on the back. It keeps the factory look. But doing them is about as much fun as bending new felt stripping for around windows.

Instead of replacing the staples with new staples, if it's just a fun driver, you can drill an 1/8" every few inches and reinstall with rivets. Then just dab them black.
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where can i pick up some piano wire.
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Piano wire is made from spring steel and comes in any diameter imaginable. You could also use stainless steel wire (which can also be called safety wire) which is more malleable and also comes in any diameter imaginable. You can find either one online, but stainless steel wire can be found at full service hardware stores. Take one of the old staples with you to find the diameter you need.
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got the door panels broke done and cut my dark blue vinyle to fit it. what would i have to do to get a stock design or some design on it. the factory vinyle has a design and the thin foam padding do too.
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You have a couple of choices. You can glue your vinyl to some sew foam, sew whatever design you want into the vinyl, and then attach it to the door panel. You can glue closed cell foam (also called Landau foam or by the brand name Volara) to the door panel, cut out whatever design you want and remove it from the rest of the foam, and then glue the fabric down over the foam to have a recessed design. You can also remove an area of the closed cell foam and glue in a separate piece of panel board covered with foam and fabric in the shape of the design you want. If you use the closed cell foam, don't forget to lightly rough up both sides of the foam so the glue holds the foam like it should.
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so do i have to have lines cut into the foam. i
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These are some my 15 year old did for a family friend in his Monza.



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If you choose to use closed cell foam and you want the door panel to be flat, you can glue 1/4" thick foam to the panel and cut whatever design lines in it you want that are approximately 1/4" wide, and beveled 45 degrees from the outside edges of the lines down to the center on both sides right down to the door panel material. In other words, 1/4" wide "V" grooves in the shape of your design. Then glue on whatever fabric you're using with high temp contact adhesive and force the fabric down into the grooves. This will give you a flat panel with the design you want. If you want different levels to make the panel more 3 dimensional, that's a different process.
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These are some my 15 year old did for a family friend in his Monza.



Nice work! I take it this goes in a Monza Spyder?
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Nice work! I take it this goes in a Monza Spyder?
Yeah they are in a 78 Spyder,I think my son did a good job on them(not bad for 15 years old).
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your son has some talent. i hope mine turns out like that one.
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