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I appreciate the concerns guys, but this is not what the rest of the car is like. The floor pans are bad, but I have sheetmetal and a bead roller, so that is not too difficult. The body is in decent shape besides the wheel wells.

I called desert valley and they wanted $325 each side for fender and wheel wells. At that price, I could buy an English wheel and learn to make compound curves.

Does anyone know of other salvage yards in which they have parts for 1970 buick cars? (I would assume other buick models have similar wheel wells)

P.S.: I am waiting to hear back from CTC Auto Ranch.

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Go to this site GM B platform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and where ever you see 1970, THAT car may have the same wheel wells as it shared the same "hard parts" with your car like frames, and door latches and handles and windows, and stuff like that. The floors were often very close, not identical but could be modified to fit.

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Here are some floor pans https://www.yearone.com/Catalog/1958...-pans-_-braces

Yearone doesn't have wheel houses though. https://www.yearone.com/SearchResult.../wheel%20house

Do some searching and you may come up with something. The wheelhouse is likely going to be different but talk to them at the place you find one and they may have experience with people modifying them and they can say yes or no if it's worth it or even possible.

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$325 a side is a steal, compared to buying an English wheel, learning how to use it and wasting sheet stock in the process, and plus cost of the material that will get used to patch the car up....plus save you weeks or months of fab work.

Buying new wheel housing pieces for another car are around $100-125 each...inners and outers, so there is $200-250 right there per side, and you would still have to modify the outers to match your quarter panel lip....and you haven't even bought quarters yet....or the trunk drop off panels down to the bottom of the rear quarter panel.

$250 a side minimum for a quarter, if you can even get on aftermarket for a Lesabre. You won't even want to know the price if you can find an OEM quarter panel someplace. $750 and up per side.

Think it through and you'll realize that $325 price per side is the way to go, and it will fit like a glove.
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I know a guy who made a wheel to make compound curve pieces for his project. After 4 years work he's still not done.

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Without the know how and right tools... It will be very hard to pull off...That's why I build the boxy type when I pro street a car..here is a few pictures,, Really easy to make..
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The box-type wheel wells seem like a better idea. A couple issues come to mind about it though.

The first issue is that there is a 'support' peice that goes from the wheel well to the back of the quarter panel. The end that attaches to the wheel well is curved so it fits the curve of it. It's difficult to explain, but I would have to tinker with that to get it to fit.

Also, about 10% of the front of the wheel well goes inside the body and is where the back passenger seats attach. I will have to do a bit of tinkering to get the box-type wheel well in there, but I am worried the rear seats wont fit in the same way.

I like the idea, I'm gonna think it through a bit to see if I see any huge issues. I'll have to look at the rear seats and support beam to see if it's going to be a major problem.
Thanks for the idea though!
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make this simple and easy on yourself. Pick out a set from the link below.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...rder=Ascending
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I was looking at those before but the width on them is way too big for my need. The height and length are perfect figures, but 23" is way too much. I measured 14" width on my current wheel wells.
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Sorry Killer,,, But don't put that in your car... It will tin can and they are paper tin... I have a bunch of people coming to me that wish they wouldn't have done it... Save your money and put some steel back in your car... You will be much better off...

Oh !!!! Not sure if any of you ever put a set together like what killer showed,,, I can say this much... You will never do it two times...
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I was looking at those before but the width on them is way too big for my need. The height and length are perfect figures, but 23" is way too much. I measured 14" width on my current wheel wells.
You have to cut them to your width and outer quarter panel inner contour shape, that is why they are extra wide.

They are also made of much thinner than stock GM body material, as these are intended for a race car where added weight is a concern. If you are going to follow this idea, make your own from the appropriate material thickness.

I still say that a whole rear 1/4 section of a rust free car - wheelhousings, some trunk pan and everything related, inner body structure and some floor pan under the rear seat along with the outer quarter skin - from door to rear bumper, for only $325 a side is a steal. Trim it up at some of the major inner seams, and install it all as one big piece, and bango, you are done and completed.

You're going to spend more than that trying to patch it in dribs and drabs
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click the link and scroll down and look at what each supplier is offering. you should be able to find what you want. Maybe cheaper. You can always get the $325 ones if no one else gets them first.
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Sorry Killer,,, But don't put that in your car... It will tin can and they are paper tin... I have a bunch of people coming to me that wish they wouldn't have done it... Save your money and put some steel back in your car... You will be much better off...

Oh !!!! Not sure if any of you ever put a set together like what killer showed,,, I can say this much... You will never do it two times...
Yup, 22 ga in steel. I bought (of all things) trailer fenders for my rear clip that are 16 ga and they have a nice rolled edge instead of the usual squared-off look. The only thing is, they are open and require panels to close them although it's just a flat sheet of steel.

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Yup, 22 ga in steel. I bought (of all things) trailer fenders for my rear clip that are 16 ga and they have a nice rolled edge instead of the usual squared-off look. The only thing is, they are open and require panels to close them although it's just a flat sheet of steel.

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Very nice.
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Yup, 22 ga in steel. I bought (of all things) trailer fenders for my rear clip that are 16 ga and they have a nice rolled edge instead of the usual squared-off look. The only thing is, they are open and require panels to close them although it's just a flat sheet of steel.

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Actually the Summit ones are even worse than that. They advertise 24 ga.

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