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Old 02-05-2005, 06:36 PM
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fastburn385 crate or mod my 350

Hi ,I'm want a small block chevy with around 400 hp at the flywheel. I was looking to find a good set-up for my 350 but I found a FastBurn 385 350CI/385HP with Aluminum Vortec Heads on www.gmpartsdepot.com

What do you think is the best:

-the FastBurn 385 350CI/385HP with Aluminum Vortec Heads

Or
-What could be a nice set-up for my engine .not sure how my engine have hp but I think it's a targetmaster crate engine with around 180hp ( 3970010 , 350ci)

Or
-Is it better to buy a new block or a partial build engine and completly built a new engine

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Probably be cheaper to build up your present Motor
buy the heads, Cam intake and Carb

as opposed to a $4400.00 crate motor
or you could throw down another $500.00
and get this bruiser
http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/product1...&Category_ID=2
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yes the 383/425 seam to be a great powerful engine but don't have waterpump ,intake ,distributor so it's not 500$ more . But anyway what cam carb and head do you suggest for my actual engine ?
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first off what vehicle is it going in IE What does it weigh, what trans and what rear end ratio are you running, and will it be a daily driver?

The Vortec heads are very good for Iron heads, $270 a piece
Air flow Research 180CC are great for aluminum but $1100 ish
for the pair.
the Cam will be very dependant on the gearing and use
but a Comp 268H or a 270M would probably work

and a 600-650 cfm Carb

best bet is call Comp Cams, Crane, Isky, etc.. and give them
what you have and what you want to do with it, they will steer you right.

Use a Edelbrock Performer RPM intake decent low end pretty good top end
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Thanks .A trans am 1980 with a th350 and a 3.73 posi . I want to drive it all day and keep my stock torq for the moment.What do you think about roller rocker. And how do you think I can increase hp whith this set-up without changing bore piston and crank. sorry I don't know my actual compression ratio

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Hi . When I see the intake section of the edelbrock web site ,I also saw
'' Building a Bowtie 420 HP Package and dyno test results for the 7101 power package.''
on the section of performer rpm . I think this conversion coud be great. But with a 750 speed demon in remplacement of the edelbrock. I'm not sure of the price but what do you think of this build
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perf rpm package

The performer rpm package is a great package for the novice builder. It gives you the basic parts and combination to achieve a certain goal.
If you just start mixing and matching parts without knowing what you are doing. You will end up spending money for parts that don't work with other parts. I see it in these forums everyday.
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Tnanks Bracketeer . Do you know others great packages for a 350ci for around 400hp?
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JUST my 2 cents.........

Buy the crate engine.......then you will have a warranty and well matched parts. You can buy a 430 HP 350 ( ZZ430 clones ) for 5 grand........they haul bum bum and idle decent......great sleeper motor.



I have a original General Motors built ZZ430 in my 32 and it is very well mannered, gets decent mileage and FLYS.........in my 2200 pound Roadster.


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I found info about zz430 http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/Chev...eeZZ430HP.html
What is the price and can I buy it another place than salee-chevrolet ?
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I believe Pace Performance also has it. You can also buy the Fastburn and some places will upgrade the Fastburn with the optional camshaf and springs. This will raise the HP from 385 to 430.

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The Big GMPP dealers are
Pace
Scoggin Dickey
Smiley
Friendly, and
Sallee

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/1578...rip-Engine.htm
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$5000 seems alot to pay

Junkyard core $200

SRP forged pistons $350
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=4643&prmenbr=361

Eagle forged Rods $266
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=1241&prmenbr=361

Edelbrock 64 cc heads $1160
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=1249&prmenbr=361

Edelbrock perf/rpm roller rpm cam $220
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=3780&prmenbr=361

My last machining bill $1200
(you will not get this carried away)
boil out block, magnaflux crank and block, turn crank .010-.010, line hone main caps, bore .030, parallel deck, torque plate hone, preassembly for rod clearance, tear down, and balance rotating assembly.

Oil pump $35
Cloyes Timing Chain $48
Gasket set $75
Bearings $69

Tss Gapless Rings $145
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=4470&prmenbr=361

Total $3768
With money left over we can buy

Edelbrock perf/rpm airgap intake $310
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=199617&prmenbr=361

Holley 650 $340
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=756&prmenbr=361

Mallory HEI distributor $95
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=266037&prmenbr=361

Holley Blue Electric Fuel pump $106
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...fnbr=1497&prmenbr=361

Total $4619
$381 left for wires, oil, antifreeze, etc
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There is an outfit in Dallas, Texas called AUTOCENTER that sells GM crate & custom built motors. They have a 320HP+ long block motor that they build using all new parts, GM block, Edelbrock aluminum heads, etc. for $2395. They have a 400HP option that is $2595, & other HP options in between. You can also buy a two year warranty for about $400.00. As far as their reputation goes I know nothing about them. You can check them out at www.goautocenter.com
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Do you think this engine could be a nice Start up base http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/store/pr...Category_ID=63
350/290hp 4 bolts but not forged crank

-I would like to put this summit 2X4 intake SUM-CWND303
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

-performance head and cam, probably edelbrock

-Roller rockers

-Do you think stock fuel pump could be ok (is it better with a electric pump)

What do you think about this set-up .I want to have more than 350 hp

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