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Old 07-25-2003, 07:28 PM
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dozer what kinda of tranny's you been building? Yea I have seen where drum and sun shell have made contact with the inside of the case but thats not normal and I make the repair to stop the contact. Here at my shop and our 2 other shops we do everyday driver's and some street cars and we have a strip car we own and drive , I have yet to have tork failure or tranny failure from not pre oiling converter or for that matter pre soaking clutch plates. My dad taught me and my three brothers he had been doing tranny from the 50's and taught tranny school in the 60's not that means alots but over the years you learn what works and you really learn what doesn't. I have been here a short time and read all the post made but dont respond to many it makes me laugh what most people think they know but really dont know crap about what makes a tranny work the rite way. Its more than setting the cable or changing the fuild, or mogulator.

airword2 i never said my transmissions scrape the case and i didn't say most or many do, i said "they can" and i've never tore one down that didn't have signs of it,
I have had more problems than i can mention with local rebuilders here whom only replace what is burnt or broke, no bushings no pump, no servo pistons, no sprags, hell some of them don't even disassemble the valve bodies and clean them or check for broken accumulator springs or wore out boost valves. that is why i do my own, you never know what you get until it blows up in your face, and they say "sorry we don't warranty fleet or high performance vehicles" that isn't to say everyone does a ****ty job, but many of them do, why because they can put out a functional transmission that will last 2 years in grandmas grocery getter because its "good enough" and spend practically nothing in parts.
I have had a converter scatter, so i always oil them "Is that bad advice? i don't believe so, do you?" Can i build a tough C6,C4,TH350,TH400,E4OD yes i can, or my company would still be forking out the 700 or more bucks a pop on pure crap that they used to and only get 6 months out of them. I was only suggesting that bigjoedo should throw it back in, adjust his tv properly and see how it goes. it is no big task to put a tranny in. if he doesn't atleast try it out hes going to go down there and likely get told "its shot, you burnt it up due to improper tv adjustment leave it here and we'll go through it and fix it for a fee." All I'm saying is test it out your self, if it does not function properly THEN take it back. Does that make you laugh? it doesn't make me laugh. getting bent over by sub-par rebuilders pisses me off.
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dozer glad to hear you can build those oldies but talk to me after you been doing tranny's as long as me or crosley, I dont just do some... I build what you see on the street. I know you do what best for your area and thats great. Dont get your feelings hurt I work on these things from 5am to 5pm eat, sleep and dream of these things yep had nightmare's too . I look for ways to improve what goes wrong with them ,I want people to say" My car never worked this well when I bought it new and I've drove it 100,000 miles since you did the transmission" You dont stay in business doing bad work and short time guarantee work.
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no harm done airworld2, you are right my experience is quite limited in comparison, i like to take a more tangent approach to problem solving "DIY or DIE" and thats why i am in the profession I'm in, don't do this, but not that, i have to do it all 100%, 100% of the time, but it can be a bad thing sometimes because i get bullheaded and i think everyones out to screw me. i shouldn't project that onto other people. when i tear anything down "besides my own stuff" it is utterly destroyed i do 0 problem solving, i rip it apart and rebuild it, so i do not have as much expertise in that area, i was outa line, no hard feelings.

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I believe with a good head on your shoulders, the willingness to learn and the proper tools, anyone can do anything on their car, that is the drive behind hot rodding, half of the fun is just doing it. none of of us would now jack squat if we didn't have the need or the want to learn.
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"I believe with a good head on your shoulders, the willingness to learn and the proper tools, anyone can do anything on their car, that is the drive behind hot rodding, half of the fun is just doing it. none of of us would now jack squat if we didn't have the need or the want to learn."

I can't and won't argue that point. There are knowledgeable people are here to help those that need it. The problem that seems to keep showing up is that there are alot of people that keep answering posts that don't really know what they are talking about. We are lucky to have Airworld and Crosley to help on this board. I did transmissions for a number of years, (documented over 5000 rebuilds) then got out of it because of back problems. I read their posts trying to learn more about the newer units. I regularly see people that don't know jack, that are telling people the wrong stuff. Like the reason that the trans isn't shifting is because of no vacuum or a bad modulator, when that trans has no modulator. Or to change the fluid and everything will be OK. Changing the fluid, rarely if ever, fixes a trans problem.

People need to keep in mind that the average rodder does not have a lift in their garage. This means that needlessly changing the fluid in their trans, means laying on their back with the vehicle up on jack stands, and likely getting covered with fluid that they had to buy. To me that is not helping them.

Having watched these posts for a couple of months I have seen several people that have ask the simplest questions, then a couple of days/weeks later, they are answering questions on the same subject like they are experts. Seems like there are alot of people that fit the category of, "Yesterday I couldn't even spell "MECHANIC", today I are one."
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re: Fine metal in trans

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Having watched these posts for a couple of months I have seen several people that have ask the simplest questions, then a couple of days/weeks later, they are answering questions on the same subject like they are experts. Seems like there are alot of people that fit the category of, "Yesterday I couldn't even spell "MECHANIC", today I are one."



============== I have seen this happen soooo much. I visit many boards on tranny stuff. I see this behavior often. IF I am not sure of an answer I remain quiet till I have a correct answer. A drag race board I visit,,, there is a guy there that offers such POOR tranny advice , thankfully most folks ignore him.

I had a customer years ago demanding a new modulator because his "neighbor the mechanic" said he needed one. Well I offered him a GM modulator since his Mopar 727 tranny did not use one...

I have worked primarily in the performance end of tranny business for several years now. I am not up on the daily driver domestic FWD type trannys.

I just called a friend about some Jetaway tranny questions I was asked. I have several ppl I rely on for information I have forgotten or never known.

We actually had a Jetaway tranny in the shop 3 years ago. The one pompus ***** builder starts yapping about a Roto-Hydramatic model 10........I laughed and told him it was a JetAway. He did not believe me till the book came out with a picture.


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I read these posts regularly in hopes of learning and sometimes re-learning. I have been out of the trans business for about 20 years. It has been almost 10 years since I rebuilt the last one. It's probably been 25 years since I've seen a Jetaway. I think I rebuilt 2 or maybe 3. As you most likely know, the TH350 was one of the best things ever to happen for the transmission business. We stayed busy most of the time thanks to that particular trans. The Ford C-4 from the 60's and the Torque-Flight's helped too. With my experience on those, I can help alot of people. Sometimes there are things that I have forgot, so I don't try to answer. I try to leave those answers for the current experts. I have never claimed to know everything. I can say that when I was in the business, I never had any shortage of job offers because of my reputation for knowing my stuff.

I will be sitting in the back-ground watching. If I can answer a question on something I know, I will. I don't answer a question unless I am sure what I am saying is right. I just wish others here would do the same.
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I read these posts regularly in hopes of learning and sometimes re-learning. I have been out of the trans business for about 20 years. It has been almost 10 years since I rebuilt the last one. It's probably been 25 years since I've seen a Jetaway. I think I rebuilt 2 or maybe 3. As you most likely know, the TH350 was one of the best things ever to happen for the transmission business. We stayed busy most of the time thanks to that particular trans. The Ford C-4 from the 60's and the Torque-Flight's helped too. With my experience on those, I can help alot of people. Sometimes there are things that I have forgot, so I don't try to answer. I try to leave those answers for the current experts. I have never claimed to know everything. I can say that when I was in the business, I never had any shortage of job offers because of my reputation for knowing my stuff.

I will be sitting in the back-ground watching. If I can answer a question on something I know, I will. I don't answer a question unless I am sure what I am saying is right. I just wish others here would do the same.

your right i agree with you, i was outa line. i will do the same
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