[Camaro_Nut2001]

Originally Posted by techinspector1

Great article Gary, should be required reading for all of us....Joe explains the proper grit to use in the last paragraph of the article.

There you are, lol. I was hoping you would chime in on the DCR and SCR conversation we've had, not to mention your imput on the op.

[1Gary]

Originally Posted by ap72

To say any port is optimized as cast is a bunch of stinky BS. Just as any other head they can be improved upon by porting the intake and exhaust, in the case of the oem production vortec heads they can be improved a great deal.

Ya know,honestly,it doesn't matter much what I think or what you think.I offer up what I know and you do as well.I promise you that in my retirement,nothing is going to upset me,and certainly not a post to the thread like this one.

I don't care about nothing more than trying to help out people.

All the battles are behind me now.

The eight bolt Vortecs I was told have a greater tendency to leak.But that could very well be because of the crappy OEM gaskets.

[vinniekq2]

1gary. Im glad you share your knowledge with us.
I know that all members dont always agree or only partially agree,but I dont see the need for attacks.
Like you I offer my all be it limited,experiences. I enjoy learning at the same time.

I will try to be less blunt in the future,or take problems to private messages. I would like to see a few different engines and combinations in the future

[RAYFIN]

Porting Vortec heads is like touching up a Picasso...

[ap72]

Porting them well will take them to about 190cc's and 250-260cfm with a 1.94" valve. And if you have a 350 that is approaching 6,000 RPM (very common for most hot street builds) that can equate to some major power.

The vortec heads were a design improvement but they were also truck heads that were produced as cost effectively as possible. Which leaves a LOT of room for improvement on a hot street build.

[1Gary]

AP-I don't think on production Vortec heads you go as big as 190cc's.

[bygddy]

Originally Posted by vinniekq2

1gary. Im glad you share your knowledge with us.
I know that all members dont always agree or only partially agree,but I dont see the need for attacks.
Like you I offer my all be it limited,experiences. I enjoy learning at the same time.

I will try to be less blunt in the future,or take problems to private messages. I would like to see a few different engines and combinations in the future

+2..... I love a good debate, and any and all opinions....especially when there's experience or education behind them. Keeps things interesting....i sure as hell hope Garry isn't bowing out.....

[ap72]

Originally Posted by 1Gary

AP-I don't think on production Vortec heads you go as big as 190cc's.

you can, its not that tricky, just takes a little more time with a carbide bit. I've done several sets in the 190-194cc range. I keep it there as I usually use a 1.94" valve.

[Camaro_Nut2001]

I finished porting the second head last night. I've got to cut the guides down, clean it, lap the valves in, clean it again and put it together. Plan on being ready to put em on and do my clearance checks, pushrod length etc... on Tuesday. Then its time to get the lil "Iron Duke" and 5-speed out and start getting everything ready for the swap. I have made my decision on the trans bolt access idea. Instead of cutting holes to get to the top bolts, thats what I did on my last S10 build, i'm gonna cut a section out of the floor pan, mig four small strips of 16ga. to the underside, lay a small bead of silicone on the strips and lay the piece I cut out right back in place after I get the motor and trans in. This way, if I ever have to pull the trans I can just pull the carpet, sound and heat dampner, floor plate up and have super easy access to the trans bolts . I've still got lots of playing to do but im gettin excited about seein what this lil flat top motor runs like.