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Old 03-23-2012, 07:42 PM
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I've checked everything in my garage for silicone. Some were easy like spark-plug release grease and grease marked heavy silicone grease. I put these in baggies and sealed them. All my buffing and polishing supplies are silicone free.

1. Are there other sources that aren't so obvious?
2. Will anything else cause fish-eyes?
3. Are there any common garage fluids or lubes that you've found that contain silicone but don't mention it?

I got a couple fish-eyes on my last panel I cleared and I can't figure out where the contaminant came from. The panel was cleaned and wiped dry with W & G remover and clean cloth baby diapers ( that's just what I use ) at least twice.

any comments or ideas are appreciated.


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Old 03-23-2012, 09:00 PM
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Ron,

Obviously oils of any kind are fish eye causers.... not just silicone based products. If you are spraying with air...I would suspect you might have a contaminated air line/hose....check and clean and dry your air separater from the compressor. Go buy a new air hose just for painting and not garage use.

The diapers...umm I question that. Wipe alls are fairly cheap in all aspects of the job. They are available at all automotive paint suppliers. If your "eyes" are only in the clear coat... IT might be contaminated.... sorry...but it happens.

Eyes are caused from something ON THE SURFACE, so after it is wiped there are very few ways for it to get there other than it being applied by the sprayer.

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"1. Are there other sources that aren't so obvious?
2. Will anything else cause fish-eyes?"

fabric softeners
hair-care products
hand cleaners w/ lanolin
certain perfumes

actually the list is endless, it can be a nightmare to chase down.
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there is a way to check with water before paint to make sure you get all the wax and grease remover off...

http://youtu.be/1-UAmubknFw
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Milo I love your style!

And that sounds like good advice, but I don't know how that would ever be practical on my car, I wouldn't want to be spraying that much water all over it...
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It sounds to me like you have the car nice and clean ..So if the panels are clean it would have to be coming from the compressoror or the lines...check and clean your filters then change the little disposable bulb filter at the gun...A toilet paper filter works wonders as a finel filter for getting water and oil ...
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How old is your activator? I had about a half quart that had been sitting on the shelf for about a year. I went on and used it and I was ate up with fish eyes and pop ups. From now on I will pour it in a smaller container or I won't use it, I thought I was going to save money but I doubled my work and still had to spend the money.
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fish=eyes

thanks all!

I'll keep learning new things until I hang up the paint gun for the last time.

Some of your suggestions rang true, I haven't changes my final water & particle remover filter in about a year plus my wife uses fabric softener in every laundry load.

I have a dedicated paint hose with all 3/8 fittings and 3/8 ID but if my filter has failed it may be contaminated too.

keep adding more tips, they are appreciated

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"Some of your suggestions rang true, I haven't changes my final water & particle remover filter in about a year plus my wife uses fabric softener in every laundry load."

the paint store should have tyvek paper 'shot suits' that would eliminate that as an issue BUT if you wear it all day it can smell like a sweat sock.
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