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Old 02-21-2008, 10:21 AM
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Don't cut that frame. I see so many of these cars on ebay and no one wants them. Your car is worth much more with a flathead that has not been butchered.


I say cut that thing and don't look back. 300 bucks might not get you to far but it is a good start. I would either clip it with a s-10 or a camaro to stay on the less costly side. You could also put a whole frame under it from a 80 or so monte carlo. Just my opinion Tim

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I try to do the best I can,but $1100 a month from the VA doesn't go real far after bills. I just keep plugging along,and maybe my dream will happen,maybe not,but I'm not going to check out without trying. thanx all,Tom (non prespiramus hectum) Translation;don't sweat *****.
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It's the trip that's fun. Once you get there, you gotta pick another destination.

Cut or don't cut is a personal choice, depending on the goal. None of the projects I'm working on are investments, so I don't really care what effect my actions have on the 'worth'. I know where I want to go and intend to have some fun figuring out how to get there.


Hey, powerrodsmike! According to Tire Size Helper, that 6.00x16 standard OEM tire on the '49 Ford was about 26.36 inches in diameter, 13.180 radius. The 195-70x13 tires on the MII are about 23.75 inches, or 11.875 radius. If my arithmetic is right, and ignoring all other factors except the proportion of disc radius to tire radius, the MII brakes will be overworked at 110% of design. How good were they on the MII?
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They were adequate, but not earth shattering good. I owned a 78 Pinto station wagon for about 4 years, (same as a MII), and the brakes were ok.

I have driven a few streetrods with the 9" brakes and 26 or 27 " tall tires and they are vague at best. Put 11 inch brakes and what a difference it makes.


I think the disc/tire diameter force proportion ratios go up in a non linear fashion.

And because I know you like numbers and math and all those cool calculators that folks find on the internet ....

Read this page and check out the calculator contained within..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Brakes/


I have not been able to use it, my home putter has no excel program and my shop pooter is at chrissies house getting the books done.


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I think the disc/tire diameter force proportion ratios go up in a non linear fashion.

And because I know you like numbers and math and all those cool calculators that folks find on the internet ....

Read this page and check out the calculator contained within..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Brakes/


I have not been able to use it, my home putter has no excel program and my shop pooter is at chrissies house getting the books done.


Later, mikey
Thanks! Lots of info on that page. I don't (and won't, 'nudder story) have Excel anywhere either, but OpenOffice.org doesn't seem to have any trouble with the spreadsheet on the page you linked. Man, that's a whole lot of math to stop a car. Must be an engineer. Some of it looks familiar from physics classes. I stopped poking around when the spreadsheet wanted the horizontal distance from front axle to center of gravity.

(BTW, I have version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org and I noticed just now that it's now up to 2.3.1. Someday I'm going to be so obsolete I'll be lapped by everybody else and they'll think I'm ahead).
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Does anyone here have experience with the amc pacer sub-frame,I worked for years on R&P steering and I would really like to put it in my shoebox.
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I have heard guys say that amc parts are hard to find.. I would check NAPA on line to see the availability of replacement rotors . calipers, ball joints etc before doing it
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I might as well jump in.
Not a ford guy, but I stayed at a holiday inn last night. Your shoebox has unequal length upper and lower A frames. The basic outline in the wiki is applicable. On a tight budget, I'd scour the yards for a disc brake setup, probably earlier the better, some thing with upper and lower A's. not struts.
Get the entire setup - spindles, hubs, rotors, calipers, flex hoses, steering arms, etc. Also the upper A frames, but not the lowers. Also pick up a rack (manual or power) from an 88-92 cavalier/sunbird/lemans (see the cavalier R&P wiki). I'm thinking the whole thing might be done on your 300 budget, unles the setup you buy is junk and you have to rebuild it.
Your upper mount may differ from the GM, so take a close look at the mount you get the parts from.
If you can understand the wiki, you can do the job.
If you decide to try it, PM me and we can talk about details.
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What about a front suspension setup from under a 73-87 chevy truck? TThere was one in the paper rotor to rotor for $40 bucks

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Old 02-26-2008, 09:06 AM
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Couldn't say yes or no, but that's the right idea.
Measure spindle height (a little longer is OK).
It needs to be a rear steer, like the ford. Unless the steering arms can be removed (then you can flip them over and switch sides to make them a rear steer. Also gives you the option of replacing them with others if the length/angle/taper isn't right. )
Check the availability and cost of replacement rotors and calipers, in case you need to replace one, or rebuild it in the future.
If those 3 check out, it's a potential donor, and you can't beat the price.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:17 AM
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..just the other day I even read a book

Later, mikey
Come on now Mikey, you may have started the book "the other day" but it took you a few to finish it, and that's if it had lots of pictures.

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