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Old 10-25-2010, 05:22 PM
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Fitting a Ford 9" for my car.

I have an 1986 Olds cutlass and for those of you who have read my other threads the stock rear end came apart on me. Well my machinist said he would show me how to do a 9" conversion. He said he has done it for many cars. Would this bracket kit work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-For...mZ390203898288

He made it seem rather easy. He said we put the car up on the lift and let the rearend hang down and then measure where it sits and then put the 9" in the same place make sure the pinion angle is right and weld the brackets in place after hooking up shocks and control arms. Thanks for any help.

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The LCA and Spring Cup mounts look correct, the UCA mounts look like they're a sturdier design than many UCA mounts. Should work fine.
Look at QP's boltin 9" Rears & you can see how the brackets are attached. >> http://www.quickperformance.com/Products/housings.htm
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:07 PM
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I wouldn't let the rear end hang down and weld the brackets on. I would have the rear end at ride height and weld the brackets on. I've never seen anyone do it with the rear end hanging down. Too much can change when you raise the rear end back into position at ride height.
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I have to agree with big gear head... You don't want to set up a rear end with it hanging.. You set it up at ride height, Tack everything up, Then take it out and weld everything..That's the right way..
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I have to agree with big gear head... You don't want to set up a rear end with it hanging.. You set it up at ride height, Tack everything up, Then take it out and weld everything..That's the right way..
What they said ^^^^^^
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What they said ^^^ no Hangman. Post above was just about the Mount Kit.
Many raise the UCA mount position higher than stock position to move the Instant Center location for better launch. Similar to what the No Hop Bars do but, this way it doesn't create a binding situation when the axle articulates. The UCA mounts in the Kit are cut to fit so it's easy to do. There are LCA mounts with multiple mounting holes to lower the LCA's to change Instant Center also.
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I wouldn't let the rear end hang down and weld the brackets on. I would have the rear end at ride height and weld the brackets on. I've never seen anyone do it with the rear end hanging down. Too much can change when you raise the rear end back into position at ride height.
Alright that makes sense. I must have heard him wrong.
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THe bracket set looks right and about the same thing I used when I did the 9" for my 83 El Camino, which is the same G Body platform as you're Olds. Here's the thread I put together when I did it.

http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=28724

The big thing will be finding a 9" that is narrow enough (57-9 Ford Stations wagon or Bronco).

By the time you go thru a JY rear end you may find it's not as cheap as you think it will be.
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THe bracket set looks right and about the same thing I used when I did the 9" for my 83 El Camino, which is the same G Body platform as you're Olds. Here's the thread I put together when I did it.

http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=28724

The big thing will be finding a 9" that is narrow enough (57-9 Ford Stations wagon or Bronco).

By the time you go thru a JY rear end you may find it's not as cheap as you think it will be. You will also need to replace the drive shaft to make this work.
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The big thing will be finding a 9" that is narrow enough (57-9 Ford Stations wagon or Bronco).
You mean like this? http://www.hotrodders.com/ads/showpr...cat=500&page=1
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What is the bolt pattern on the axles?
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5 on 4 1/2, stock Ford car.
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quick question. I am leaning more towards the ford 8.8 now. my local u pull has one out of a lincoln with a modular motor. He said its posi and should have a 3.55 gear in it but i will go through it and make sure hes right. Will the bracket kit from the 9" work with a 8.8" rearend? Thanks
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9" has 3" axle tubes. a rear with the right width should work. some of those are 2.5" axle tubes tho.. as far as determining if it is a 3.55 w/ trac lok ( Posi is an Eaton limited slip )
there should be a metal tag that should read 3 L 55
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quick question. I am leaning more towards the ford 8.8 now. my local u pull has one out of a lincoln with a modular motor. He said its posi and should have a 3.55 gear in it but i will go through it and make sure hes right. Will the bracket kit from the 9" work with a 8.8" rearend? Thanks
The outer arm brackets will work, but how are you going to weld the upper arm brackets on?? It is a cast center housing.

Maybe the Lincoln has cast ears for upper arms, and in a usable position and usable angle?? I'm not familiar with them.
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