fix this header ? - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Engine
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2008, 08:12 PM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
fix this header ?

bran new (had em a year. bought from summit, just now installing) HOOKER SUPER COMP headers. passenger side fit perfect. drivers side, anything but perfect. 1st pic, the pipe is aimed right at the control arm bushing .
2nd pic. the collector is right up next to the trans, and the shift lever is not even bolted on. these were not bent while i owned them, and i doubt during shipping (no dents at all). i think they were jigged wrong. but 1 year later, i doubt i have any recource.

they are not coated yet. that is just cheap white paint. i wanted to see how an old school white header would look.

my question : anyone have issues like this, and how did you fit them ?
(i have some ideas. but they may be bad ideas.)


thanx


(sorry for the large pics, i didn't realize the camera was set so high).




    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 03:43 AM
Member
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: cherry hill nj
Posts: 49
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
headers

i say call summit if you never has them installed they might exchange them. i bought a summit 2.1/8 water gage had it for six months when i went to put it on, i find the copper tube is broken at the connection. they replaced it i had to pay for shipping
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 07:08 AM
Notorious's Avatar
Hot rodder, not street rodder!
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bakers Mountain, NC
Posts: 507
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you can get them to exchange them for something else, that'd be my choice. Some of the most ill-fitting headers I've seen over the years have been Hookers. They seem to have a real and ongoing problem with consistency within a given application.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 07:16 AM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,895
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 259 Times in 212 Posts
If you are stuck with them.......I have bolted them on, put a long piece of pipe in the collector as far as you can and give it a good reef.....They will bend over some.
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 08:08 AM
cboy's Avatar
Member
 

Last journal entry: Finished
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Atwater, CA
Age: 69
Posts: 3,918
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I've never tried to exchange something over a year old with Summit but I have with Speedway, and they were very accommodating. Particularly if you are simply requesting an "exchange". Email their tech dept. and send along the best pics you can get showing the problems (downsize the pics if possible...Microsoft has a free program you can download to do this.) It's worth a shot.
__________________
Always learning...and sharing what I've learned. The Scratch-Built Hot Rod.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
thanx, guys. i think i am stuck with them. i'm going to try bending them. perhaps some heat will help. ya know. i have yet to buy a part and put it on without modifying it somehow. even when i didn't want to modify it
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 07:12 PM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,895
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 259 Times in 212 Posts
I wouldn't heat them....If you heat just one area, it is going to bend more there, and may buckle.......If unheated, they should bend over a larger area....It doesn't take much to move the collector over a bit.

Try and find a piece of pipe that just fits inside the collector.
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 07:25 PM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
yeah. i'm going to try it cold. you say it will work, so thats what i will try. but if i did heat them, it would be over a wide area and not to glowing. but this is why i asked, you guys have delt with this issue, i have not, yet. wish my LUCK, cause i'm going to need it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 07:41 PM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,895
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 259 Times in 212 Posts
Way to put the pressure on me...........Now, I am gonna be up all night worrying about it.............. ...Kidding..

It worked a couple of times for me,,,,you shouldn't have a problem, especially since the headers are still in new condition.
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
well, if it doesn't work, it will be all YOUR fault ....

but, i may have problems. i need them to bend only about 6" before the collector. otherwise they will be hitting the frame where the lca mounts (can be seen in the pic). and the pipe may dent from the frame.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2008, 08:16 PM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,895
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 259 Times in 212 Posts
Yeah,,,can see that...I would put a piece of plywood in between the header and frame will bending it.....that will spread the pressure against the pipe. I would also bend it down as much as out.........
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:39 AM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i did some bending yesterday. turned out pretty good, though i need to do a little more.... the first pic, the piece of pipe that is not there. i had to heat that and bend it so it matched up with the moved down pipe. they now clear the uca. it did kink a little, as you said it would. but its not bad, i may fix it, i may leave it (its kinda hard to see, so no biggy). a little more work on this, and then i can get to work on the cross memeber, and move some wires.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 07:46 AM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,895
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 259 Times in 212 Posts
Glad it worked out....I was going to suggest that you put that missing pipe in place before you bent it, then it would flex too, but I forgot...........Now, you can call them "Custom Fit" headers....................
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 08:16 AM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i couldn't put that pipe in place, it just wouldn't fit.

i just read in another thread, that hooker headers are made in mexico, is this true ?

custom fit, lol. yeah, i guess i could call them that. but up until last night i was calling them other things.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-05-2008, 07:40 AM
Vortech 4.3's Avatar
jack of all trades
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: sw sub chicago
Posts: 780
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i did some more work on it yesterday. i pretty much waisted my time. down below is fine. the small pipe doesn't fit quite right, and this makes the hole length too close to the control arm (even though i trimed the control arm).
so i'm going to get another piece of pipe and weld it in.

these headers are made for 1st gen s10's, and mine is a 2nd gen. but a few guys have these on their trucks and they say they went in pretty much just fine. but my luck would have it that they didn't.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Engine posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Header Painting How To Full Throttle Engine 33 03-08-2006 01:06 PM
Header Clearance Issues with Pitman Arm k2mooch Suspension - Brakes - Steering 4 04-26-2005 01:35 PM
Oil filter hitting header???? Robbie Engine 19 04-09-2005 09:35 PM
Header leak help tm454 Engine 2 12-18-2003 10:53 PM
Header Fix? 72 chevy Hotrodders' Lounge 4 06-29-2002 11:22 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.