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Old 06-17-2003, 02:23 PM
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OK, I'm no expert, but what if you sand the top so you feather the peeling edges, with say 600 grid and the re-shoot the top with new clear coat? Your emliminating the peeling areas, and your covering the exposed paint??! ...Won't that be worth a try? My 2 cents ...Mark(11echo)
Virtually impossible to get a good finish that way. I don't think a journeyman painter would even attempt that. Also, if the clear has already lifted in spots, it will lift in other spots soon so your patch will be ruined.
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is it me, or is a $250 estimate just for paint a little high?
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:31 PM
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it will peel back eventually if not a few hours or right after you apply it, since old base coat is so oxidized and out of "opportunity window" how painters call it lol
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:35 PM
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Once paint starts peeling,even if you feather it at the edges,you could put 20 coats on and it would still peel off, it might prolong it for a while,but it will peel. HTH.

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how about scuffing it up real good with 80 grit? does it need to be stripped down to the bare metal?

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Eddie you are going to get Oddsnends confused here.

First of all if you use 80 grit and then paint you might create a new style finish lol. I`ve seen those kinds of paint jobs at some car shows.lol LOL lol. Sorry Eddie I could not help myself.

Oh yeh the car has a plastic top; Read the previous posts.

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Old 06-18-2003, 12:40 AM
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OK, work with me here guys!

OK ...I'll grant you it won't be a "show room" finish, but under the title of "trying to save money AND till look ...ok" Don't you think it MIGHT be worth at try? ...Worse that could happen is that it fails with in a month or so, BUT it might last 18 months or longer if you really took care of it!?? I'm afraid I'm kinda of a "hard head", I'd give it a try. At minium, you'd get some experience shoot'n paint!*G* AGAIN ...my 2 cent! ...Mark
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11echo;

You are jokeing, aren`t you? That is a good on, we need a little laughter every day. lol 80 grit lol.

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Thanks guys for your inputs. No confusion here, I am not going to attemp this and am going to let a Pro handle it.

Today I got a call from the painter and he said that the paint will be $150 instead of $250. Getting better....
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i'm not saying he should scuff it up with 80 grit and then shoot new clear.. i'm saying scuff it up real good with 80 grit, step up to 120 grit, then prime, wet sand with 400 grit, shoot color, shoot clear, wet sand with 2000 grit, then buff..

i was just asking if 80 grit would be able to remove enough of the peeling to not have to worry about it coming back after repainting, avoiding having to strip all the way down to metal..

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Eddie;

There is no place on this project you can use 80 gritt paper.
If you cut that plastic top with 80 gritt, your opening a new can of worms.

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Eddie..... SORRY, but in your case, it sounds like the blind leading the blind.

There are obviously too many people here trying to give advise on subjects that they are not the least bit qualified for. Usually when someone asks a question, it is because they want to know how it is supposed to be done. An educated opinion, not someone's guess.

Like has been said. The only way to properly repair this problem is to strip the paint to the primer. Grinding the plastic roof will certainly open a can of worms that no reputable shop will want to deal with. Painting over the color coat will not last. The first clear coat would not stay, why would the next?
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There are obviously too many people here trying to give advise on subjects that they are not the least bit qualified for. Usually when someone asks a question, it is because they want to know how it is supposed to be done. An educated opinion, not someone's guess.

who was giving advice?? i was asking a question... would 80 grit work.. simple as that..

so i'm an idiot for missing the part about the plastic roof... sue me..

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Old 06-21-2003, 07:26 PM
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Check to see if there is a recall on your Saturn for paint problems, I had an 89 Bronco II that the paint would wash off with any kind of water presure. I checked it out and there was a recall on several years of Ford's for paint problems. The dealer had to repaint all the failing areas for FREE!!!!!!

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I know that Ford and GM did repaint alot of their cars for paint peeling. I don't think it was actually a re-call, as they didn't notify people that they were doing it. It was more like a tech bullitin, where they only fixed it if you went in and complained. That way they avoided fixing alot of the problems. A couple of yeara ago, when I was an insurance adjuster I had a claim that I was handling that was due to paint peeling. The people were referred to GM. They told me that GM was not paying for them anymore. Like some time limit had lapsed.

Maybe someone can shed some light on that deal. Was there actually a time limit that has expired, or can they still get them done?
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