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whats a good flat black to use i bought junk at a local auto paint store a gallon for 45.00 it looks like tar coming out of the can, have to cut 1-1 ratio then says put on 3 coats and wet sand with 220 grit i never had to flatten a primer coat with 220 what else is out there

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get normal waterbase black base coat, apply three coats then clear coat it, but add matting agent to the clear coat. simple
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Or get a "Matte clear" that is already flattened and use it. I am with the previous poster that is the best way to get a low or no gloss paint these days.

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You can also ad flattener to single stage. I've done a couple '32 Fords that way, and one still looks good after over 10 years.

Just don't use primer. I have seen black epoxy primed turn gray with white streaks after three years.
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I have a 64 Cadillac (see my profiler) shot with everything imagineable DP90, Poly Primer, Euro Primer, House paint, fence anti-rust paint etc.. etc.. about 10 years ago and little monye trying to get that satin finish. all of the above mentioned faded or chalked 6 months to a year later.
The last time about 5 years ago it was shot with PCL flat black and PCL Flat clear. Love the satin finish but the person shooting got help from PCL. He mentioned he had a hard time getting the tiger stripes from shooting the clear. As far as durability Ive left it in the sun for a couple of years and since always bee stored outside with a cover. No change to the paints finish.

Had a buddy with a 61 Cadillac. The same painter with PCL flat black no flat clear and the car is beautifully perfect satin black...he has had it for 5 years this way Hes kept it outdoors but with a cover. Drives it alot goes to out of town car shows and no changes to the paint finish. I cant remember if the guy that painted it says he had someone from PCL actually shot it or just helped him..
I guess my car was used as a ginuea pig. hahaha.
Case in point if going flat black do not use anything but flat black paint or flattened clear to get the rich solid flat black finish

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