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Old 08-09-2005, 08:22 PM
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flexible sealant

I'm putting the kick panels back into a '76 Firebird and I was wondering if anyone can suggest a good flexible sealant that I will need to use to seal up the vent holes. The original factory stuff was still very flexible and soft after all these years. I'm afraid of buying something that will end up being too adhesive which will make it so I'll never be able to take the panels out again without wrecking them. Thanks.

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sealer

I have had very good luck with Super Silicone Instant gasket maker Type 7

But I am sure a clear window sealer would work fine if put on correctly,window sealers usually last and last
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Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Go to your local building supply and get some GE clear silicone.
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3M seam sealer...blue & white tube...damned if i can remember the part #...should be available at any body shop supply
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I am not sure everyone is talking about same thing. Are you talking about rope caulking around the vent hole?

If so, dont use anything like silicone that dries. You want something like putty. Kinda like plumbers putty.

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Yea, I think the rope caulking is the stuff I need. A putty like substance is what sealed up the vent hole before and I'm sure it was OEM. The stuff was black and very soft. I've got good direction now on what I need to track down. I want to make sure that I get this sealed up right otherwise I could have a water leak coming through the vent hole and into my newly treated and painted up floor pan. Nobody wants that! Thanks all for the advice.
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Mike, I dont think you get water there. I think that is more of a dust shield than anything. Not sure on that particular car but I think the water from the cowl goes straight down and drains out the bottom. Did you have a paper like shield behind the kick panel?

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Rich, There wasn't any paper shield behind the panel. I've wondered about the water too. It looks to me like it is very possible for the water to run off the cowl and run directly onto the part of the vent that houses the vent door before it makes it down to the drain. It looks to me that if the vent isn't sealed properly, this water could work it's way into the interior. Anyway, I think your suggestion of rope caulking this is the right stuff. Thanks for the help.
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Dunno,

I am a first generation Camaro guy so I dont know. But I would find the caulking stuff and put it back in. I think even hardware stores sell non hardening rope caulk.

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3m Seam sealer is definately the way to go. No shrink and stays flexible and have painted it with no problems
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3m Seam sealer is definately the way to go. No shrink and stays flexible and have painted it with no problems
3M seam sealer is like glue. What he needs is a non hardening non sticking material like the factory used.

Rich

PS: This is what you need. It pulls off in strands. But I have seen it in 3/8 single strand. Just could not find it online. http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...p--612996.aspx

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Hey Rick, quote me if you want but know I dont now what your talking about.

Here it is from 3M, 3M 08500 All-Around Autobody Sealant is a white, easy to apply sealant that is used fo sealing interior and exterior autobody joints and seams. Applies easily and can be smoothed to a featheredge with a wet finger and sets to a firm, tough, rubber-like water resistant bead

Dont see any glue mentioned here and dont see it as glue when I have used it. To me it looks like the factory sealer when painted.

Now as I see the other posts going back and forth if he wants rope seal used for automotive its commonly called "Spaghetti Strap Seal Black" here is the site:

http://www.angelapesta.com/apd/proje...et/adhesiv.htm

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Creative,

I hope I did not offend you.

I haved used the 3M 08500 many times. As a matter of fact used it exclusivly for the seams and joints you mentioned until baddbob turned me onto some new Urethane stuff that last longer and tools better. The 3M stuff is just like latex caulking you would use on your house. Looks and feels the same anyway.

This is NOT an interior seam we are talking about. Its a seal around the back of the kick panel. Its like playdo. It does not stick real well, does not dry and years later you can peel it off and roll it up on a ball again.

He does not want seam sealer that sticks to the back of the kick panel. Just a putty to make a seal. Same as the factory.

The original stuff is just a white rope material.

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Hey Creative and Rich,

I've got to agree with Rich. I used the 3M stuff to seal up my interior joints after I fixed up the floor pan. What I was wondering about now was a sealer for the back of the plastic kick panels. I felt that if I used the 3M sealer it would be too adhesive. I thought that it would seal up great but that if I ever had to take the panels out again, I'd probably destroy them because they'd be too stuck to the body. The rope caulking that Rich described sounds exactly like the factory stuff that the panels originally had. I'm sure it was factory stuff. It was black and soft like putty but made a water tight seal. It pealed off the panels very easily. I'll check out both sites that you guys suggested. Thanks again.
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