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Floor high beam switch

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I'm well on my way working on my car little bits at a time. One of the things I am most confused with is, is how does the late 70's GM floor mounted headlight high beam switch get wired so it works properly. I was concerned with this, not having bought a column with the high beam switch on one of the levers. I considered getting a GM column out of a 80's Regal or 70's Pontiac, Caddilac or something similar but I got one at a local Rod shop for a good price that I was told would work fine.

I'm using 2 ea. 4659 and 2 ea. 4651 lamps by Sylvania if it makes any difference.

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Tell us what you are working on and what wire harness you are using, if it's aftermarket or not.

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Blue wire----from headlight switch-----center position--or top, whatever

lt grn wire to the right term on switch---should be 2 wires 12 terminal--hi ind--hi beam

Tan or lt brown---left pos on switch low beam


Just got this from my wiring instructions

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Doc here,
  • CENTER WIPER=Headlight switch power
  • NORMALLY CLOSED= low beams
  • NORMALLY OPEN=High beams + indicator

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Thanks for the help. :-) I heard there is a connector socket they made for the three spade on this gizmo.

I chose Painless wiring for my harness and fuse block/panel. Although someo f the wiring I am working on piecing together myself, If I can't find and order the right kits. Watsons made a cool little cover for it too, but the one I found didn't fit the big button on the switch.

This brings me to figure out how to wire my hazard switch which is on the center console as a Rocker switch. If I'm right this is also in the same routing of the wiring going to the headlamps, parking lights, turn signals, etc.

Those colors look right to me too. I assume thise are all 14 or 16 gauge wires. I have in front of me what looks like a generic wiring diagram.

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Thanks for the help. :-) I heard there is a connector socket they made for the three spade on this gizmo.

I chose Painless wiring for my harness and fuse block/panel. Although someo f the wiring I am working on piecing together myself, If I can't find and order the right kits. Watsons made a cool little cover for it too, but the one I found didn't fit the big button on the switch.

This brings me to figure out how to wire my hazard switch which is on the center console as a Rocker switch. If I'm right this is also in the same routing of the wiring going to the headlamps, parking lights, turn signals, etc.

Those colors look right to me too. I assume thise are all 14 or 16 gauge wires. I have in front of me what looks like a generic wiring diagram.

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Doc here,

Uhhh...OK...

unsure here..Is there a question about 4 ways..Or did I read it wrong?

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Yeah,

Now that I've got the high beam sorted out, There is ALSO a question about my 4 hazard switch, which is on the center console of my dash (Painless Wiring red illumiated rocker switch). The wiring should go to the flasher on the Fuse panel, right? Which ones.

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Doc here,

GENERICALLY...

The Center wipers should go to the flash unit, the flash unit to power at all times, and the 4 "On" poles (normally opens) to each turnsignal lamp..

Other than that..Post your diagram and we can see what your working with..

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What about to the rear rail lights which are the Billet Specialties show in the center of the attached photo, courtesty of the BS Web page. They go bright when the brake is depressed, and stay on (but not bright) when the headlights are on. But, how do the 4 ways work in the rear?

I'm goin to dig out my diagram and post that section.
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Doc here,

power is brought into the switch for the 4 way THROUGH the flash unit..the flash unit is hooked to the fuse, the other pole is hooked to the switch center~wiper.

EACH of the ISOLATED 4 wires from the four pole switch will go to the BRAKE LAMP / TURN SIGNAL Filament and connect there..

I STRESS ISOLATED because if you daisy chain them, and hook them to a standard single pole switch..you will back feed the Brake/Turn systems, and nothing will work correctly..when you step on the brakes..everything will stop flashing, or when you turn on the say , left signal, all 4 will flash.

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Great info. I am going to go out to the shop today to try and get it hooked up.

Hope this helps someone else.

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Ok, I got started on the wiring project this evening. I got most of the way through it but, when it came to the headlight switch and brake light switch I was still confused but may be able to get that done tomorrow.

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Hey Greg!
Did you ever get your wiring schematic posted? That will be essential to helping you out.
I would have recommended going with the later GM column though. All of the wiring for the hi-beams and flashers are in the column which is a plug and play with a GM connector.
If you need any direction or help on wiring any Chiltons or Haynes manuals will cover a lot of the wiring for any car you are using. What car is this by the way? Did you start with a complete car or are you piecing this thing together like Johnny Cash? LOL
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I didn't get my schematic posted yet, been to busy spending time working and researching threads for the best parts to use.

Yea, I can say it's a bit of a Johnny Cash caddy type project.. cobbled up from stuff I can get pretty easily out here. Actually a lot of it is NOS or brand new.

I downloaded the Painless Wiring #90501 manual for the universal wiring harnesses they have.

If someone wants it, I could email it to them. That kinda helped narrow down where things go, and the things I need.

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Greg,
Have you ran new blinker fluid through the switch? Doing that may fix up all of your wiring problems...
Pick up a bottle of fluid and try it... ask for it at any auto parts store.

Good luck on your project.
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