[Irelands child]

Originally Posted by pittbull7934

I've tried welding (I have never been taught ANYTHING about welding) and I seem to just melt stuff. So I have others do it for me

That's why GE sent me to welding school many years ago to learn stick and why I took a 6 week course a few years ago to learn how to use my MIG

Dave W

[matt167]

I bet he was knowingly getting flowmaster knockoffs and blaming 'his supplier' is just a cover cause he got cought

[pittbull7934]

Originally Posted by matt167

I bet he was knowingly getting flowmaster knockoffs and blaming 'his supplier' is just a cover cause he got cought

I think that might be a good guess, he was mighty nice to me when he called me trying to sort things out.

If he was telling the truth I hope he tells flowmaster his supplier is selling FLOWMEISTER's and not the real thing.

I guess at this point I just hope to get what I paid for.

[carsavvycook]

I have a muffler shop I have recommended for years, but I heard something today that I need to check out about him. There is also a new shop, that I heard the same thing about. This newer shop I have not used as yet, so the complaint could be legitimate.

I also have not ever seen a Flowmaster muffler without "Flowmaster" embossed on the casing.

It is very sad, that the world we live in, has changed so far into cutthroat business practices. We should all get what we pay for, but there are times I have been sold 'cheap' imported knockoff parts. I refuse them, and demand the premium parts I have ordered.

My 'motto' is Quality and Honesty, and I try to live up to that every day.

I am sorry to read you got "took" Dustin. I hope it will be taken care of properly, and hastily.

[pittbull7934]

Originally Posted by carsavvycook

I have a muffler shop I have recommended for years, but I heard something today that I need to check out about him. There is also a new shop, that I heard the same thing about. This newer shop I have not used as yet, so the complaint could be legitimate.

I also have not ever seen a Flowmaster muffler without "Flowmaster" embossed on the casing.

It is very sad, that the world we live in, has changed so far into cutthroat business practices. We should all get what we pay for, but there are times I have been sold 'cheap' imported knockoff parts. I refuse them, and demand the premium parts I have ordered.

My 'motto' is Quality and Honesty, and I try to live up to that every day.

I am sorry to read you got "took" Dustin. I hope it will be taken care of properly, and hastily.

Yea, i can see why exhaust shops do this, they want to be the cheapest guy on the block, and very few people actually check to see if there mufflers are what they wanted.

I can see however like a good mechanic, a good honest exhaust guy could do very well for him self. I am fine paying for what it is I want.

[DoubleVision]

My nephew just stopped by and he said the copy cats are called "Pro Sound"
He told me he took them off as he got tired of them. He took a walk in the junk yard and found 2 flowmasters and had them welded on. A friend of mine did this same thing, he found 2 laying in the junk yard, paid $30 for them both and walked away smiling. Since the guts in a flowmaster almost never rots they all sound close to the same when broken in.
I took the flowmaster off my 4.3 V6, as it sounded like a swarm of angry bees. I went back to what I know and love since my youth, a turbo muffler.
FM`s sure sound great on V8`s, not so good on V6`s.

[pittbull7934]

Originally Posted by DoubleVision

My nephew just stopped by and he said the copy cats are called "Pro Sound"
He told me he took them off as he got tired of them. He took a walk in the junk yard and found 2 flowmasters and had them welded on. A friend of mine did this same thing, he found 2 laying in the junk yard, paid $30 for them both and walked away smiling. Since the guts in a flowmaster almost never rots they all sound close to the same when broken in.
I took the flowmaster off my 4.3 V6, as it sounded like a swarm of angry bees. I went back to what I know and love since my youth, a turbo muffler.
FM`s sure sound great on V8`s, not so good on V6`s.

Up until recently I have been less than thrilled about going to the junk yard.......now I love it! New parts just laying on the ground, or right there easy to take off. And they are dirt cheap.

I could not find an after market dust/inspection cover for my 700r4, found 3 on the ground at the junk yard last week, paid 50 bux for all 3, and I brought home a starter with me as well, thats less than what I paid for the dust cover from JEGS and this one works, and I have extras! Never thought to look for mufflers! great idea, we have 4 chevelles!

[302 Z28]

I also love Turbo mufflers, especially with a set of long tube headers and a thumpy cam

Vince

[American Muscle]

I have a set of turbo mufflers on my 305 with hooker long tubes and this thing sounds and runs good. I have a bone stock 305(headers, edelbrock carb) on a 86 silverado and im very satisfied with horsepower and gas mileage. I can smoke tires all the way through first and chirp tires into second and the turbos are totally awesomne sounding but when I get an extra 185 bucks im headed to my local muffler shop for the 40 series flows

[carsavvycook]

I got to see his project car today, and it is a beauty, very nicely done. I hope he can post some pictures of it, for you all to see. Beware, the pictures may not do it justice.

After a few quick tune-up adjustments, it sounded as awsome as it looks. Very close to his power expectations, and I have a couple more thoughts on how to harness more power out of it.

Stephen

[6426yy]

Yeah it's my suppliers fault. BS that's scab work plain and simple. All the shops around hear are the same way. I try to do EVERYTHING myself, now I know how to rebuild trannys and rearends.

Just for a reference my buddies dad has a newer dodge caravan with 42,000 miles on it. While it was still under warranty the dealership told him the reverse pump was out of it and needed a complete overhaul. (He lost reverse only). What a bunch of **** a quick peak underneath and you could tell the trans was not pulled. And the insurance companies know no better.

[Barn Owl]

Pitbull, Rick's R.V. shop on east main in Elcajon has treated me well over the years and is going to install an exaust system on my 69 C10 here real soon. He has a mandrel bender so the system comes out real nice and he is an accomplished hot rodder that has done work for Boyd before he died.

[carsavvycook]

I did not know Rick's RV did exhaust work. Thanks for the information.

I have lived, and worked in the East County (El Cajon, and Lakeside) since 1975, is it possible we might know each other?

[1ownerT]

Originally Posted by pittbull7934

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/index.php?page=60

Above is the link to flowmaster's site.

Well a phone call from the flowmaster tech to the exhaust guy "educated" him on the fact that if it does not say flowmaster, it is in fact not a flowmaster.

He prompty called me and told me that his distributor told him they were flowmaster's and that he called the distributor and they swore up and down they were flowmaster's

With that said, we made an appointment for him to put the proper mufflers on next week (he has to order them, and I am assuming from a different distibutor).

I am glad I did not have to make any threats of any kind and it appears it is going to be handled in a positive way.

Thanks for the help,

Dustin

Wouldn't a Flowmaster come in a Flowmaster box?

[bentwings]

I have the proven $17 turbo mufflers and a full 3" exhaust on my Willys. Sounds great to me.