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Old 01-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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Anyone dirt track race? I hear they love the little 2.3 fords...

Anyways, i was wondering, what do you think about building it up. Its a 1974 and i hear that the blocks back then for the 2.3 were really strong due to high nickel content...anyways, i was planing on building it up to give all these little ricers a run for their money.

Ive got about, 500 dollars in my pocket today, and will have about 500 a month, plan on about 1500 or so going into the engine.

I was looking at getting a t3 turbo, intercooled etc, rebuilding the whole engine, hotter cam etc. What do you guys think? Turbo...or just high compression...what compression should i shoot for turbo/non turbo? I was told that them dirt track 2.3's do 150 on the straight streches..anyways, tell me what you think, just shoot...constructive comments please =)

Fairlane

p.s. i looked into getting a 302 or a 289...but i would rather keep her stock engine..and i dont have to worry about smog stuff like you cali peeps...i live in wyoming.

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For roundy round racing in the mini stock or mini mod (4cyl) class, most of the guys around here run the 2.0 in a Pinto or 79-84 Mustang. The 2.3 is OHC, the 2.0 is a OHV. Some run the 2.3, but not many. They don't seem to do as well as the 2.0. (they also give you a weight break for the smaller engine)
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well, this is going in a mustangII...well, pinto reall i guess...so, which is gonna do better on street? I was just told that 2.3 is really fast with the mods that dirt track racers use...and since i never have to do smog tests, i can run what i want...

you happen to know what the guys that run 2.3's do to them?
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The 2.3 turbo that originally came in the svo mustang, xr4ti, tbird/cougar is the high nickel Brazilian built eng. Its a slightly different block because of the drilling for the oil passages to cool the turbo (head different also). The design engineers told me (at ford school) if your going to build up a high performance eng to use the turbo block. Ford has built some of these engines, at their experimental garage in Dearborn, at 600HP, using the big BMW turbo, and they still hold together. Of course you can still build a standard 2.3 w/ parts from clifford performance and still build a screamer. Ford design guys just say that the turbo block is better. I've seen these a the local pic-a-part, but what you have to watch out for is cracked heads. I've got 2 of these engines at home but I wont part w/ them. Gonna use one for my Morris Minor build up.
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Almost every non-turbo block I have seen cracks the rear bolts holes, they helicoil them to repair them but it doesn't fix the problem if you ask me.

You would be best off getting a 2.3 turbo from a junked T-Bird and rebuild it. The 2.0 litre Kent engine is far superior in every respect...especially the rods-good to 7000 rpm plus. A friend had one that ran up to 9000 rpm with Carillo rods but with factory head (ported) and block and made 300Hp on the dyno with a single 750 double pumper, it was installed in a Cortina. Very fun car to drive, almost like a Formula I car for the street.
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Actually, in the early cars it was a 1.6 pushrod Kent motor (the basis for the Lotus engine/head), the 2.0 is a cammer from Germany (Cologne) and is very stromg and is the basis for the Formula Ford series cars. I think the 2.0 is superior in most ways to the 2.3, although the later ones(especially the turboed ones) have come a lomg way. There is a later 2.0, but it is just a shrunken 2.3 and shouldn't be confused with the early '70's one.
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You are right Woodz, the 1.6 was the Kent engine. I stand corrected.
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Yeah, the 2.3 ford is really popular up here, and in Pennsylvania, to the point where they are hard to find in boneyards now. I thought it was a goof when a guy asked me to build him a couple several years ago, but after driving one during hot laps one night, I have to say I was wrong (I used to HATE 4 cylinders). They really are tough little motors, and good performers with a little work. The best trick I have learned is to use 6 cylinder Chevy rods (5.7) and shorter pistons instead of stock Ford rods. A couple of other guys I know use Buick v-6 rods that are re-worked as well. This involves turning the crank down, but is well worth it for the added torque (much like the 383 SBC). They also run a high performance cam and tricked out heads, all of which you can find online for decent prices. WWW. Speedwaymotors.com is a good place to start, and good people to deal with. :-)
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Yeah, the 2.3 ford is really popular up here, and in Pennsylvania, to the point where they are hard to find in boneyards now. I thought it was a goof when a guy asked me to build him a couple several years ago, but after driving one during hot laps one night, I have to say I was wrong (I used to HATE 4 cylinders). They really are tough little motors, and good performers with a little work. The best trick I have learned is to use 6 cylinder Chevy rods (5.7) and shorter pistons instead of stock Ford rods. A couple of other guys I know use Buick v-6 rods that are re-worked as well. This involves turning the crank down, but is well worth it for the added torque (much like the 383 SBC). They also run a high performance cam and tricked out heads, all of which you can find online for decent prices. WWW. Speedwaymotors.com is a good place to start, and good people to deal with. :-)
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Fairlane,
Goggle Enslinger Engineering ,they have just about any thing you could poss want for 2.3.
Hope this helps
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Goggle Enslinger Engineering ,they have just about any thing you could poss want for 2.3.
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