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Old 03-03-2012, 02:16 PM
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Here are two pics of my son swapping parts from the Granada to the Mustang, for doing this work he got the car for free.

we swapped the disc brakes from the granada to the mustang and viceversa but some time later I bought new disc brakes for the granada, same happened with the steering box and column and the transmission lol it's costing me some money, it it's not free car anymore
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I'm sorry, I'm new around here but I have to ask. Why???

Why a Granada? Why pull out a V-8 and put in a six that has less power and torque and uses the same amount of gas??

I guess I just don't get it. Please tell me where the cool factor is?

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Woh woh woh hold on. . . if this I6 300 is between 65' and 72' it puts out an incredible a mount of torque 283 lbs.. low horses (170hp) but that's an easy fix.
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I'm sorry I had to ask, its something you just don't hear people doing these days. Not sure how, but I missed where you said it was a free car, and had the engine in the shop already and so forth. It begins to make much more sense, but sorry to say I just didn't know about all that.

I guess when I think Granada, I think of one my Dad had, 240 six, and more damn electrical problems then I can remember. It was a roomy and comfortable car that didn't have enough power to get a new driver in trouble.

Thanks for explaining it better. I hope your Son learns a lot and you two have some good bonding while doing this car. I wish my kids were interested in these kind of projects!

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dude im trying to do the same thing but i dont have a v8. iv got a I6 200.

in other words "Its good to be different."
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:51 PM
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I had a 78 Fairmont Futura whith a 302 and it had a dual sump oil pan.
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dude im trying to do the same thing but i dont have a v8. iv got a I6 200.

in other words "Its good to be different."
hmm the I6 with the integral manifold in the head, well I think that engine can only be waked up with a turbocharger, I would install a TBI using one of the adapters they make for 2 barrel carbs, or even better milling the hole bigger and use a turbo from a 2.3 (140 cid) mustang engine, that would be sooo different and sooo cool
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Not sure how a 300 will be but the 302 did much better on gas than the factory 6 in these cars the same with the fairmont. Had two of those one a 4dr v8 and a two door 6 and the 302 was by far the better way to go.That old 300 will run forever though. The piston slap on most was bad but that didn't stop them from running 200 to 300,000 miles.
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No Prob with SIX

The six in your Granada should be nice! Granadas were avail with a SIX and a three speed manual floor shifter on some cheap models! Blew me away when I saw one! Must be rare as I have only seen one, and yes, it was some little old lady from Oregon that had it! I tried to buy it from her so I could stuff a 351 and a 4spd in it, but she wouldn't sell!
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4spd on the floor was available also. it was a 3+OD toploader. Behind both 302's and 250 I6's.. 351W was also available in the Granada certin years I belive..
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the OEM I6 engines for the granada were the little 200 and the slighthy bigger 250, those were too small engines for this car, I'm sure that with this big 300 CID truck engine the car will perform quite well.
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Just a couple thoughts on your carburetion:

The inline engines have always had issues with fuel distribution due to the length of the engine. (I owned straight-eight Packards, where it was even worse.) With a single carburetor in the middle, there is almost always more fuel going to the middle cylinders than to the end cylinders.

This hurts fuel economy because getting enough fuel to the end cylinders to prevent an over-lean condition results in excess (wasted) fuel supplied to the middle. When you "punch it" and the accelerator pump sprays raw gas into the intake, this situation is briefly even more pronounced. From a standpoint of both optimal power and best economy, you want each cylinder supplied with only as much or as little gas as it needs for the momentary demand on the engine.

There are multiple-carb intakes available for this engine, which would help considerably. If you find a setup for dual Webber 36/38 carbs, be aware that these carbs were used on some Pintos and other 4-cylinder engines, can be often be found used at a reasonable price, and rebuild easily. Barring that, if you use only a single carb it could possibly be an advantage to use a small (465 cfm?) vacuum-secondary four-barrel rather than a large two-barrel. On low demand, the four-barrel is using only the small, primary side of the carb, while the 2-barrel is always using the entire carb. Operating at a lower flow rate due to the larger cross-section, some two barrels are not as precise at metering fuel based on venturi-effect vacuum signal.

If you have room, maybe you could look into fuel injection, as used by Ford on later engines. I know fuel injection can sound scary and like a trip to the unknown, but if you do a quick read on how it works, it really is very straight-forward. If you have U-Pull-It yards, or check CraigsList, the complete stock setup may not be prohibitively expensive. It would sure give you better performance potential on both the power and economy sides.

Of course, this leads to thoughts of a way-cool-sounding dual exhaust!
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Woh woh woh hold on. . . if this I6 300 is between 65' and 72' it puts out an incredible a mount of torque 283 lbs.. low horses (170hp) but that's an easy fix.
well, you have to remember, that prior to mid 73, that was gross hp, what I've seen it's about a 22% power drop going from gross to net hp..

72 had 170 hp/283 torque, 73 had 101 hp/223 torque.. (yes some loss was due to going from 8.9:1 compression to 8.0:1 compression, but the major loss was due to rating the engine differently.)
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Why? let's explain,

my son got the car for free from my brother, it's an old model but in pretty good shape

my brother bought the car to pull the 351W engine, trans and power steering to transplant into a mustang, so the granada was left powerless.

since my son needed a reliable and cheap car to go to college I decided to help him make it run again, neither him nor I wanted a rice burner for him,

I had this 300 I6 engine in my shop so he got the engine for free also, he worked in the car and I helped him so nothing is being spent in labor costs, he doesn't need a hot rod and I don't want him driving one, so the six is perfect I feel comfortable with it.

but the most important part is that hes learning a lot about working with cars, nex time he'll start a car project on his own, and I'm sure it will be some old american iron.

now it has become some sort of "cool" project to work with, we're pretty excited and can't wait to make it run.

the granada is nice and has lots of room and a nice stereo can be installed inside, he's saving money for that.

maybe, and just maybe I'll let him (read I'll do the work) install a turbocharger in the I6... that'll be cool..

If a turbo is possibly in the works, consider entering "Ak Miller" into your search engine as he did work on the inline 300 Ford with turbo's and created quite a bit of power with them. That man knew how to make power with just about anything he touched. He's one of the best that came down the road. Hope that may help in the future.
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nice build..
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If a turbo is possibly in the works, consider entering "Ak Miller" into your search engine as he did work on the inline 300 Ford with turbo's and created quite a bit of power with them. That man knew how to make power with just about anything he touched. He's one of the best that came down the road. Hope that may help in the future.
yes, I've found him in several searches I've done, but my idea of turbocharging the I6 is not making a hot racing engine, just an altitude compensating turbo, 4-5 psi of boost, will make it perform like if it was at sea level, we here are at 6.600 feet of altitude and turbos are great.

as for a true performance build I'm sure a lot of power can be obtained from this engine, but I would like to know if it's worth it, besides the cool factor I believe more power with less money could be made with a 351W.

anybody knows how much this engine weights? seems to me it's near same as a V8
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Almost equal with the 5.0L IIRC
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