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Old 04-11-2002, 03:23 PM
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Hey F-1, well at least you know what kind of truck to buy . And as Paco mentioned Ford introduced the Boss 302 in 1969. It was a 302 Windsor block fitted with a pair of Cleveland heads. It was later replaced by a high performance 351 Cleveland.

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dear santa, please bring me one of all! the aforementioned car/engines,i been real good,jimm
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Ford also produced the Boss 351 and the Boss 429 along about the same time frame, late '60's and early '70's. Never saw a Boss 351 until later in the years, but went to college with a dude that had a blue/black stiped '70 Boss 429...always a race between he and another guy with an LS-6 Chevelle SS, two more ****** cars....
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Boy -oh -boy did this subject bring up a response. We used to take a 283 crank and use a 327 block and got what we called a 301. Maybe if we'd been better at math we would have called it a 302. Thes small engines still work great and I'mm building a couple now out of swap meet parts that are cheap and plentiful. (15 pistons,13.5:1 compression for $80.)Going up to Okalhoma City in the AM for the local Nationals and hoping to pick up more parts.
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chevy mad a 302 from 67 to 69 with the stroke of a 283 and the heads of a 327. 290 estmated hp but pushing mor like 350 and with a few mods 400+ great for a smallblock V8 i have a ford 302 and a chevy 305 both good motors but i dont know much but the boss 302 in a mustang generated lots of hp
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302's, both of em

Both the Z-28 Camaro and the Boss 302 Mustang were created for the express purpose of qualifying these cars for road racing. The Chevy Z-28 302 was indeed a 283 crank in a 327 block. (5 liters was the limit) Solid lifters, very hot cam, optional dual 4bbls on a ram intake dealer installed. High reving, not a very good street engine, but a real screamer on the track.

Same with the Boss 302 Mustangs. Cleveland heads on a Windsor block for durability and major high end breathing capability. Again, not a good street engine but a screamer on the track. Grand Daddy of today's Cleavor highbrids.

Both needed lots of gearing (3.73's just barely acceptable, 4.11's better, 4.56's were what they really wanted), ridiculous fuel consumption, hard starting, tough to keep tuned, needed really high octane because of insane compression ratios made bearable only because of the insane duration and overlap in the cams, no vaccuum so no power brakes, NO low end torque so no power anything on the originals. Power steering or AC would have stalled them at idle and idle was about 800 RPM minimum. Not a street engine, really.

Just about perfect in my opinion.

And Chevy did not sell any tooling or engineering to Ford. Both 302's were scratch built using existing parts from the respective factories.
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So much mis-information in this thread...

Both engines were developed to compete per class requirements.

CHEVY DID NOT SELL ANY PATENT TO FORD.

The similarities between both are about the same as the 351 to the 350.
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