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Old 01-14-2008, 01:44 AM
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Ford 8.8 rear end and mini spool... axle pops out

Ok heres my problem..
I have a 1977 Chevy Luv with a 350 stock motor,
and a turbo 350 trans 3000 stall and US Strange gears,
and a ford 8.8 rearend with Richmond 3.83 Gears and a US Strange Mini Spool.
Now i do understand driving with a spool on the street is not so fun..
but i do. and thats where my problem is.
my passenger side axle pops out..
i know that fords dont have C clips and the first time it happened i replaced
the outer axle bearing,
but every 2 miles, turning or not it still spits my axle out,
i checked my spine and it looks perfect.
I Need Help Please!

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I think all 8.8 integral housing rears use c-clips. Does the outer bearing press on to the axle shaft and is then retained in the housing by four bolts? Most mini spools will accept the c-clips. You might want to take this to a pro. And if only one side is coming out, you have a tracking issue.
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On a (stock) 8.8" Ford, the c-clips are the only thing that hold the axle in! Whoever installed the mini-spool either forgot the c-clips or didn't think they were important...

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Ford 8.8.. Mini Spool.. Axle Pops Out!

Yes the bearing had to be pressed on and the vacuum plate with the four bolts was still bolted down..
i thought fords dont come with C clips?
i took it down to Six States one of the Local Specialty shops
and they thought the same as i did..
I've had them press on the bearing twice now.
Its starting to get pretty annoying..
anything else you have in mind?
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First, make sure your's is a Ford 8.8" (see pix). If so, run like h*ll as far and as fast as you can away from that shop as they are truely clueless!

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Old 01-14-2008, 03:13 PM
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My Crazy Problem

Oh my bad, it is a Ford 8 in.
Either way would it make a very big difference?
Im only 18 so i am still learning..
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Much different, the 8" rear does use the bearings to retain the axles. Possibly the axle shaft is worn enough so the retainer collar comes loose or they're using the wrong collar. There should be a sizeable interference fit there. It could be as simple as pressing on an undersized collar (if there is such a thing) or complicated as buying new axles(s).

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My Crazy Problem

I was thinking that it might be the wrong bearing.
But i double checked and its the exact same part number.
maybe i will have to just replace the axles?
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The bearing does not hold the axle, there is supposed to be a collar that presses onto the shaft after you slide the bearing on. Best to find a good blow-up diagram...

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Oh! ok i see what you mean now..
When i put that Collar/Retainer piece on is just slide up and down..
You are supposed to put that on after you have the bearing pressed right?
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The lock collar comes with the new bearing and should be a lot harder to press on than the bearing, because you dont want to deform the inner race of the bearing too much. Sometimes, though I dont like to, if the axle is worn, you can tack weld the collar to the axle. It only takes A REALLY SMALL TACK and can be done with a TIG welder to minimize the heating of the axle shaft.
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Ok does the collar go on before the bearing?
Because once i press the bearing on that collar has nothing to stick to.
It just slides.
Could the shop and i be putting it on back wards?
And if it comes down to worn axles id rather replace them then
weld them.

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I've looked around a bit for some replacement axles..
its been about a 7 hour journey but i cant find anyone that sells them.
Anyone know of a place that would possibly sell replacement 8 inch axle shafts.
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:39 AM
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Here's a pic of a 9", the 8" is the same. The collar goes on last and is a very tight press fit.

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8 and 9 inch 28 spline axles are the same all you need to know is the brake offset (flange to bearing outer surface) and the housing end you have (early/late big or small or car/mustang end) they will interchange.
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