Ford FE engine in a Shoebox Ford - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> General Rodding Tech
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2008, 05:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Temecula, CA
Age: 69
Posts: 56
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ford FE engine in a Shoebox Ford

Does anyone have any information on installing a Ford FE series engine in a 1949-1951 Ford Shoebox?

I would like more power and reliability than a modified flathead but want to stay relatively period in the engine swap. I don't want to go the common SBC or SBF route. I am thinking an updated 390 with aftermarket heads would make a good stout swap and still be more Ford and period than the other obvious alternatives.

Any information on fit, frame mods, clips, engine compartment sheet metal would be greatly appreciated along with transmission recommendations. A 5 speed or a 4 speed auto would be nice.

Will not be a racer, just a good strong street car.

Thanks in advance.

Harley Monster

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2008, 05:21 PM
techinspector1's Avatar
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Last wiki edit: DynoSim combinations Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hemet, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 12,552
Wiki Edits: 326

Thanks: 691
Thanked 877 Times in 745 Posts
The problem is not gonna be fittin' the motor, it's all the other stuff that has to be upgraded: cooling, steering, suspension, brakes, rear diff, etc., etc.

If I were gonna do it, I'd be lookin' for a derelict 66-69 Fairlane, Comet or Falcon to use as a donor car. I'd cut the front and rear frame thirds off the '49 and weld the Fairlane/Comet/Falcon front and rear subframes onto the middle part of the '49 frame. That way, you'd be set up for motor mounts, trans mount, radiator mount (using the donor core support), newer power steering and suspension and brakes, rear suspension and differential, etc. You could also set the body to the height and attitude you wanted it at without having to fosdick around with cut springs/dropped spindles, etc. and the attendant evil handling that comes with messin' up the suspension geometry. A motorless donor that came with an FE would be a plus, giving you the good diff. Headers might be difficult to come by with power steering, but I'm thinkin' a set of Sanderson shorties would work. Crites sells a plan to convert to disc brakes on the front for $25. It uses OEM stuff that you can find in the boneyards.
http://www.critesrestoration.com/fairlane.htm

For the skinny on the myriad of other stuff involved, I'd get one or more engine swap books and bring myself up to speed.
http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Swappin...3034763&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-...3034834&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Engi...3034834&sr=8-3

Last edited by techinspector1; 02-14-2008 at 05:30 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-16-2008, 07:45 PM
junkyardjeff's Avatar
Member
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dayton Ohio
Age: 53
Posts: 252
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have seen a 460 in one so a 390 should fit,I would recomend installing something like a fatmans front clip to make it easier to install the motor. The original suspension is made so the motor has to have a center sump oil pan and making one for a FE would be difficult,you might have to use the 6 cylinder radiator brackets to move it in front of the core support for more room. Jeff
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-01-2008, 01:17 PM
RetroJoe's Avatar
Beats pickin' cotton
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Reno,Nv
Age: 49
Posts: 118
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My 50' has a 302 in it and it is a tight fit! I don't know who installed it, but it works!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent General Rodding Tech posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ford GT-40 Crate Engine Questions 31rdster Engine 8 11-27-2005 02:32 PM
MSD Pro-Billet Ford FE Distributor tomcasino Engine 4 09-22-2005 05:03 PM
What can I do to hop up this 197 hp 460 Ford engine onebadmerc Engine 7 05-24-2005 11:05 PM
Ford Engine size Rancher Engine 6 11-23-2003 12:45 AM
Ford Engine Sizes bigjoedo Engine 1 01-31-2002 04:05 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.