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Old 08-30-2010, 09:24 AM
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Any of them may work. European version of these cars are often built better than US versions. You just need a good RWD drivetrain.

As far as "working" any engine you choose will require fabrication work, essentially they will all "work" about the same as long as they are not too long (no inline 8's).When looking at a flathead Ford built and shipped to norway you're probably in the $10K+ plus range (US dollars). When looking at using an engine available in your country you're looking at the $1k (maybe even less) range.

If you have the money build what you want, but to me cost is always a factor. See what is available local first.
Thanks! $10k+ is a little to much for me.

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I really like the Ford 4 cylinder engines. The "right" one would be a 2.3 from a fairly late model Mustang or Thunderbird ('79-??)along with the transmission. If you can find one with a turbo charger, they have all the strong parts already built in so even if you don't use that little Garrett TBO3, you can still be assured that it will stay together.

Here's a listing of Ford products that used the turbos including some more easily found (for you) European cars:http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...ger_cars/ford/

A flathead is a great engine for an 'A', but a nice running version has gotten almost cost prohibitive. They are not really super easy to install in an 'A' due to that bulging firewall. Of course you can use a recessed version firewall to make it a bit easier to do - and before 'others' say it's a snap, unless you have done it with that OEM firewall, know what you are talking about.

Then of course, there is the modern engine - and depending on which one you use, there is a very big difference in the amount of work required. The gas tank has to be cut out and a new one made. My '31 has IFS as well as a 5" recessed firewall to be able to install a late Ford 5.0L and "things" are still tight:
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There is not a lot of Rangers in Norway. There is lots of Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo, Escort, Transit and Mondeo's, but none of these will probably work :-\
These are all front wheel drive and while any of them could be made to work, I don't think that's what you're looking for. What I'd be looking for would be a Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, Datsun pickup truck. One thing that has not been addressed in this thread is brakes. The A has mechanical brakes, so anything over 40 hp is gonna make a dicey driver.

If I were charged with doing this for you, I'd buy a complete donor pickup truck (maybe one that has been declared a total loss by a smack in the rear or side but not hurt in the drivetrain part of the truck). I would use every mechanical part from the donor. If it was electronic fuel injection, I would use every piece of wiring and the computer from it.

The A used a half-elliptical (I think that was the term) rear spring that could be re-used to hang the differential from, along with some brackets welded on to accept conventional tube-type hydraulic shocks (the stockers were friction shocks).
That would automatically give you upgraded brakes at the rear, commensurate with the power of the motor.

I would look to Master Power Brakes for the front brake solution. I would want to adapt the pickup brakes to the stock I-beam axle. These folks can make the bracketry for you to adapt the pickup rotor to the A spindle if you are unable to cobble it up yourself. Here are some helpful links from their site....
http://www.mpbrakes.com/technical-su...igurations.cfm

Of course, there will be a hundred details which must be addressed before you make your maiden voyage with your hybrid, so I'll link a couple of books that you may want to read....
http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Swappin...3219061&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Engi...3219119&sr=1-2

Swapping a turbocharger onto the motor for more power shouldn't be any big deal. I'm almost certain that there are kits available for those Japanese pickup truck motors.
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These are all front wheel drive and while any of them could be made to work, I don't think that's what you're looking for. What I'd be looking for would be a Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, Datsun pickup truck. One thing that has not been addressed in this thread is brakes. The A has mechanical brakes, so anything over 40 hp is gonna make a dicey driver.

If I were charged with doing this for you, I'd buy a complete donor pickup truck (maybe one that has been declared a total loss by a smack in the rear or side but not hurt in the drivetrain part of the truck). I would use every mechanical part from the donor. If it was electronic fuel injection, I would use every piece of wiring and the computer from it.

The A used a half-elliptical (I think that was the term) rear spring that could be re-used to hang the differential from, along with some brackets welded on to accept conventional tube-type hydraulic shocks (the stockers were friction shocks).
That would automatically give you upgraded brakes at the rear, commensurate with the power of the motor.

I would look to Master Power Brakes for the front brake solution. I would want to adapt the pickup brakes to the stock I-beam axle. These folks can make the bracketry for you to adapt the pickup rotor to the A spindle if you are unable to cobble it up yourself. Here are some helpful links from their site....
http://www.mpbrakes.com/technical-su...igurations.cfm

Of course, there will be a hundred details which must be addressed before you make your maiden voyage with your hybrid, so I'll link a couple of books that you may want to read....
http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Swappin...3219061&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Engi...3219119&sr=1-2

Swapping a turbocharger onto the motor for more power shouldn't be any big deal. I'm almost certain that there are kits available for those Japanese pickup truck motors.
Thanks for all this info. All the trucks above is very cheap in Norway, so at least this will keep my costs fearly low. I have saved this post in a text file on my computer, so I will look in the litterature on amazon as soon as i have bought my first model a. Thanks a lot!
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A friend of mine had a Toyota 4cyl I think in a T Bucket...it had a hemi head on it and made pretty good power. Ed Croozer had a model A sedan Delivery with a Mercruizer (Chevy) Iron Duke 4cyl and an S10 T5. Car would cruise 80mph all day and had plenty of cool factor. Especially when you wax some kid in his Honda with a Model A and a boat engine
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The iron duke is limited to about 160hp na without spending a lot of money. Not a bad engine if you only need that power though. A quad 4 or ecotec can hit 100hp/liter with mostly stock parts (head intake cam and exhaust upgrades needed). That's still only about 200 hp but that's not bad for those light A's.
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160hp is twice the hp of the little flathead that came out in 32. We had a pony stock car with 2.3 ford non turbo...thanks to racer walsh...it was quite the lil powerhouse.

Not to mention that motor doesnt weigh anything and you can run traditional carbs and distributors etc...If hes not comfortable tuning and wiring...avoiding an ecotec swap isnt a bad idea.

If I lived in europe Id have a ex-buick now rover 215+ci aluminum V8. They're very compact and parts are abundant. I helped put one in an MGB...it weighed less than the original motor practically and fit like it belonged there...
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