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Old 11-27-2003, 09:52 AM
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Ford Pinto

I think that I ran into a pretty good deal last night.My uncle has an old Ford Pinto that he was going to fix up to play around with.It's either a 1973 or 1974.Anyway,it has the original 4 cylinder and 4 speed transmission.He offered it to me for $150.I just saw it last night in the dark,but I'm going back tomorrow to check it out before I decide to buy it.Just last weekend,I bought a 1977 F-100 Custom with a 302 and a 4 speed transmission from my future step-mom for $200.It ran like a new one and it had brand new Buckshot mudders on the back.Night before last,a buddy of mine helped me take out the engine and transmission.Now I have a nice running 302 sitting on an engine stand in my garage,just waiting to go in something to have a little fun with.I think that Pinto will be a fun little project to play with,especially with that 302 in it .Anyway,does anyone know where I can get some information or to get a kit to stick in that 302?I was actually thinking about going with a C4 or an AOD transmission,as I plan to take it to the strip now and then .Anyway,if anyone could let me know something about this swap,please do.Thanks a million!

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Old 11-27-2003, 10:50 AM
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Love them small cars with big engines.
Anyway. Get on Yahoo search and type in pinto. It will pull up some sites that people have put in. Also try www.Egroups.com They probably have clubs for Pinto's on there. Last, heres a Guys Yahoo messenger handle that has a very nice pinto. Message him and ask him about his car and website. Goodluck. Hg
His Yahoo handle is pintorick
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Thanks HG.You still got that Gremmie?It's about the same as a Pinto,except it's made by AMC right?

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Righto.
Only big diff is the Gremlin did come out with V8's in em, so it makes the conversion a little mor feesible, but its still some work with a bowtie engine.
Let me know what ya figure out. HG

This looks like a lively group on Egroups. Check it out. HG
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Nightrain - sounds like a great project. However, don't forget about the fuel tank in that Pinto. Don't want history to come back and burn ya.
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Nightrain - sounds like a great project. However, don't forget about the fuel tank in that Pinto. Don't want history to come back and burn ya.
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If you're talking about it's small capacity,I've got a solution for that..a 16 gallon fuel cell .That's all that I can figure out that you're talking about.Anyway,I'm going to look at the Pinto Bean tomorrow.I'll get back with you guys on how it went.

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Oh yeah..I forgot.

I've been hanging out on some Pinto Message Forums and it seems that everyone uses Mustang II engine mounts.They said that they fit pretty well for the 302.They also used C4's.They said that's about the only thing that works without tearing up the firewall.Anyway,it seems like everything is pretty well out there,but it's gonna be a little harder to find because this isn't a "practical" swap.

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Nightrain, If you send me your address I can send you a small book that has some partnumbers and a different way of mounting the 302 in the Pinto. Its the same one they sell on EBAY for 10 bucks. I will not be using it as I'm going a bit to the right with my project.

Here are a couple good lists with alot of info

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...clubofamerica/
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pinto/
http://www.bob2000.com/pinto.htm

My E mail address is vincel@mindspring.com. I will have it in the mail to you ASAP!

The 74 and later is the one to get for mods. They have a bit bigger engine compartment and better front suspension with more options for bigger brakes.
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Thanks Pinto_Guy!

I'll e-mail you here in the next few minutes.My uncle said that it was either a 1973 or 1974.He couldn't remember right off.I'm suppose to be going to look at it this afternoon.Maybe everything will go good and I can have me a nice winter project to play with .Anyway,there are alot of pictures of V8 Pintos out there.What do you do for headers though?I'm pretty sure that a custom-made set is what you'd have to have,correct?Or,can I use headers from a SBF Ford Maverick?

Anyway,thanks for the info.I'll e-mail you soon.

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If you can find them the cast manifolds from the Mustang 2 work. Headers are a pain to fit in the Pinto.
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Yeah,I figured that they'd be a pain in the butt.I guess that it's just something that I'll have to mess with to figure out.If I get this Pinto,when I remove the 2.0L,I'll ease that 302 down in it and do some experimenting.Surely there is some aftermarket header out there that will work,but there might not be.What's the biggest thing that gets in the way?The steering box?

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Try some block huggers. They make some thats really short. On my Gremlin, I can use that or I can use the kind of headers that exit out twords the back of the firewall. HG
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Mustang 2 headers kinda work. There is no steering box on the Pinto. Its a rack and pinon. The 71-73 had a Flexable shaft that connected the rack to the steering shaft. that was a good thing for putting the 302 in such a small hole.
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Thanks again fellas.Yeah HG,I looked into a set of Ford Motorsport "block huggers".I will probably start out with those.I'll check into MII Headers also.When I get out of high school and go to NADC,I'll probably rebuild the 302 and make a 347 Stroker out of it if the little Pinto lasts that long.I've only got 4 more years till then anyway .

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Old 11-28-2003, 12:46 PM
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I'll have to cruise the Gremlin down to see it when its done. HG
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