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Old 08-18-2005, 02:21 PM
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Ford toploader 4speed rebuilding

Hey Guys,

So now that I have been informed that my ford top-loader is a strong beast, i figure i might as well rebuild it.

Does anybody have any preferences for a full rebuild kit. I have found a bunch, but would like peoples input on good ones with good components.

Thanks!
Mike

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Several sources

Hey,
Try going to toploader heaven or David Kee toploaders. Both are excellent sources for rebuild information and kits.

I would recommend getting the road race rebuild kit with the better main and input shaft bearings. They aren't much more expensive but are stronger.

Also, take a careful look at your gears, synchros, input shaft, and mainshaft bearing surfaces. If the synchros are worn you will have big problems, ie popping out of gear on de-acceleration and others. Frequently either the 1-2 or 3-4 synchro is bad, and to properly repair it you need to replace the gears and the synchro.

Get the case and tailshaft tanked at a shop. It is the only way to get it clean.

You will also need a very good set of snap ring pliers, as virtually the whole trans is held together with snap rings.

With a proper rebuild and clearances, you should be good to 600 hp.

Edit - Definitely get a Hurst Competition Plus Shifter. The stock one sucks and is typically worn out and sloppy anyways.

Cheers,
Andy
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Yea, rebuild it and hold on to it for dear life. They are getting hard to find and are an excellent trans, darn near bullet proof. They also came with 2 different first gear ratios and 2 different diameter input shafts, small block version and big block version. Make sure you have the correct input shaft for your engine/clutch package before going to far.

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Yea, rebuild it and hold on to it for dear life. They are getting hard to find and are an excellent trans, darn near bullet proof. Mark
Hard to find?? really? I would have thought they we're all over the place, seeing how many cars we're built with them.

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Hard to find?? really? I would have thought they we're all over the place, seeing how many cars we're built with them.

Mike
Quality assemblies are getting harder to come across. There is plenty of banged junk out there that would cost a fortune to update.

They were only built from 64/73.

And before one contempates overhauling one, there is a number of special service tools required to disassemble and assemble one properly. The rear case bearing is pressed in for example. Without the service tool, it will be a pain in the posterior.
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top loaders.

One tool ithat is easy to make is an interlock plunger. Countersink an 8mm(5/16) bolt then run a1/8 drill bit down the other end. Weld in about a foot of 1/8 welding wire bent into a t handle and you're ready to assemble that awfull shift rail set up. I threw mine away years ago and will never build another. P.s. ya might wanna cut the head off the bolt first.
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http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com

I buy my parts form David. If you have any questions he will always take the time to give you the answers.
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I was thinking of going with toploader heaven, because their kit is the same price, has the same bearings, and it says it includes all these tools needed to do the job.. What you guys think??

"What special tools are included in our “Top Line” kit at no extra charge?

1. Dummy pin for cluster shaft installation.
2. Trans gel assembly lube for needle bearing installation.
3. Magnet for detent removal and reinstallation.
4. Tool to install tailhouse bushing.
5. Rear roller bearing driver.
6. New 5/32 allen wrench for set screws.
7. Tool to remove front seal
8. Tool for front seal installation.
9. Tool for rear seal installation.
10. Tool to install and properly flatten case plug
11. ¼ inch alignment tool to your shifter after the rebuild is complete "


Is it worth getting it there for the tools?

Thanks,
mike
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