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Pardon my ignorance, but i need to know if all ford automatics bolt up... I have a 94 300 ci Fod Six from a pickup, and the junk yard has a 79 van with a 460 (!) V-8 and a three speed no overdrive automatic.


Will these bolt up? they are going into a rat rod, so there will be no body clearance problems.


On another front, i found a 1965 six from a Falcon to go into my 61 falcon ranchero. There is no transmission. My ranchero had a standard, but i would prefer an auto... What should i tell the junk yard guy to look for that will bolt up? ... I dont need overdrive, though it would be nice. And i dont want to move any sheet metal.


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They do not all bolt up..the tranny for the 460 has a different bolt pattern from the one that bolts to the small block..and I think your 6 has yet another bolt pattern.

One of my bset sources has been www.car-part.com that is the Hollander online wrecking yard interchange..Some one should have what you need..And often I can tell what fits what from the info presented when I am looking for pieces..

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2nd question was a good one, C-4 is the normal auto for the 65' 6 motor

"but".... are the very early Falcon unibodies the same as the 65' Falcon/Mustang/Comet (all the same) unibodies for clearance and mount with a C-4

ya stumped me!....now I'm curious
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for the 6, u need the small bell trans, looks like the SBF trans but shrunken, 1966-1977 Falcon/ Mustang/ Granada 6cyl, but not from a '80-'83 they use the SBF pattern, just make shure it has the small bell pattern on it. a C4 should fit fine in the '61

u should find a '66 up 200 or 250 tho, there 7 bolt mains, and take a lot of abuse, the pre '66 blocks are 4 bolt main and considerably weaker. I'll be turbocharging my '67 200 with a grand national turbo fairly soon, turbo charging these small 6's is fairly popular.

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Be careful, the early six cylinder and some V8 had a 5 bolt bell housing, not 6.
Inspect the back of the block and count bellhousing bolt holes.....
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Be careful, the early six cylinder and some V8 had a 5 bolt bell housing, not 6.
Inspect the back of the block and count bellhousing bolt holes.....
that's somthing I forgot to point out, some 'pre '66 small 6's had 5 bolts, everything after '66 is 6 bolt I think. guys at www.tffn.com could clear any of that up.
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Ok thanks... i think i found a 64 motor and tranny... so that's just a money deal...

And for the 300, i need a truck 6 cylinder automatic... any year restrictions on that?

If i was a real hot rodder, i suppose it would use the 460, but that seems like a little over kill for a Burger getter..
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"god bless the Autozone.com site"

so handy to plug in 2 different vehicles parts specific's search and compare....(and lots of good info for specs/repairs/tuneup/etc)

Autozone says:
1994 1/2T PU 6= C-6 for $xxx...great tranny....gazzillions in the yards
1979 van 460= C-4 or C-6 "with big bellhousing mount" for $xxx= won't work without a 6 bell housing

the "which" 60's bellhousing question constantly comes up on this board, attached a pic' to save and use in the future
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thanks a lot... C-6 six bolt bellhousing... got it...
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your welcome,
seriously....stick a Autozone link on your desktop......so friggin' handy for does X match Y and what are the other options (van was c4 and c6)
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i llooked but didnt see what to do off hand...i'll mess with it after work
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"god bless the Autozone.com site"

so handy to plug in 2 different vehicles parts specific's search and compare....(and lots of good info for specs/repairs/tuneup/etc)

Autozone says:
1994 1/2T PU 6= C-6 for $xxx...great tranny....gazzillions in the yards
1979 van 460= C-4 or C-6 "with big bellhousing mount" for $xxx= won't work without a 6 bell housing

the "which" 60's bellhousing question constantly comes up on this board, attached a pic' to save and use in the future
in 1994, i have not seen a c-6 in anything (except some 1 tom or bigger trucks, and im pretty sure it was no later than 90-91.) depending on the series and engine, it either came with a 4r70w, or a e4od. and both of those r electronic...
as far as the 6 cyl fords go, only 1 was made with the sbf pattern, and it was the 300. the smaller c.i. inlines as stated by chazmac, depending on the year will either have 5 or 6 bellhousing bolts, and the bell housing itself was bolt-on for a c-4 (because there were several engine options), and it was more of a rounded shape for the small inlines.
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your info is correct, Autozone listing did include E4 (4 speed) etc options for $xxx

was trying to limit the answer to the 460 (3 speed) question and have him get in the habit of checking the site to know all the options

thanks, your post adds to my point (?)...

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here r some ford bellhousings to give an idea for bolt patterns to the block. ull see a inline c-3 bellhousing, a fmx bigblock bellhousing with what im pretty sure is a c-4 bellhousing for a small block.. and a 5 bolt inline bellhousing. hope this helps.
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